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Yale SOM Webinar: MAM Student Panel

– [Director] Two. – Hello, everyone, and thank
you for joining us today on our student panel webinar. My name is Kelsey Kanavy, and I’m the Assistant
Director of Admissions for the Master of Advanced
Management program at Yale SOM. And I have the pleasure of being joined by four of our MAM students today. And I’ll ask them to
introduce themself briefly, but to give you an overview of
what we’ll be covering today, we’ll start with introductions, I will give you a brief
overview of the class profile, and then we’ll spend the bulk of our time answering some of your most
frequently asked questions. And I hope that this
gives you the opportunity to get to know our students
a little bit better. So to kick off introductions, Mtise, can I ask you to start? – Oh, sure. So my name is Mtise Mwanza. And I did my MBA at the
University of British Columbia, Sauder School of Business. I was focusing more so on the Innovation and
Entrepreneurship track. Previous to that, I’d
worked in the healthcare and life sciences industry, starting out with a
biotech company in Boston, moving on to clinical trials in New York, and then right before
plummeting into my MBA, I did try out to wet my feet
in the entrepreneurship space by starting out on my
own business of sorts. And yeah, so 2018 started the MBA. And there I was involved
with the Net Impact Club, trying to delve deep into
the social impact space, which is what I care about a lot. And here, I’m involved with
the Women in Business Club. I also do try to be engaged with the Healthcare and
Life Sciences Club, as well. And then post MAM program, I
am hoping to actually segue into either a startup space for work, or any some social-impact-oriented
kind of job, so NGOs. – [Kelsey] Great. – Oh, and I come from Zambia. (laughs) – [Kelsey] Great, thank you for sharing. – Great, my name is Kevin Duarte. I’m originally from Nicaragua. I did my undergrad in
Tec de Monterrey, Mexico, and then I transitioned into
construction back in Nicaragua, where I spent four years developing homes. It was a great experience
and I went through designing into getting into the
managing part of the company, so that was great. And then after that, I
decided to take my MBA as I became involved more in
the managing side of things. And I did my MBA at INCAE
Business School in Costa Rica. Halfway through it, I got the opportunity to apply into Yale, and now I’m here. And I’m very focused on
making that transition from architecture into finance. And Yale has been great
in giving me the tools to actually push forward that change. And looking forward, yeah, I’m looking for options
in whether it’s finance, and I also like the rotational programs that are focused in finance as well. – [Kelsey] Great. – Hi everyone, my name is
Caroline van der Merwe. I’m from Cape Town in South Africa. I did my MBA at the
University of Cape Town Graduate School of Business. And before I came here to SOM, I worked for several years
in a small consulting agency. And as I grew more senior
in the organization, and I took on a leadership role, I really felt that I needed to shore up my experience with an MBA. And that’s why I chose to do that. And then I heard about the MAM program and I just fell in love
with studying so much, that I decided to come here. After the MAM program, I’d like to transition into a role that’s around social
entrepreneurship and social impact, a little bit like Mtise. And one of things that
I’ve done while I’m here, is a software management course, that was really just a crash course in how to manage software projects. It was really exciting and challenging, and I think that will
stand me in good stead to go to a social impact firm that has some sort of
technology based product. – Hi everyone, my name is Chris. I’m originally from sunny
San Francisco, California. But I spent the last 10
years of my life in Japan in the healthcare space,
specifically with aging care. And I really chose Japan because it’s ground zero
for, well, aging care and specifically palliative
care, where I came from. And I worked in medical
devices for about three years, before divesting the
company and joining my MBA at Hitotsubashi ICS in Tokyo. During that time, I learned
about the MAM program and I figured that this would be actually the perfect compliment
to my education in the East, by looking at really
what society and business are doing in the West. And I hope to bring what I learn at Yale back to the Far East, specifically within the
healthcare space once again, to kind of really tackle this problem at a grassroots level, and specifically within the
rural communities of Asia. And that’s it, I’d like to
throw it back to Kelsey. – Great, thank you everyone so much. Now, I think it’s important to note that these are four students of an incredible cohort of 63 students. And to give you a little
bit of an overview of what the class profile
and the cohort looks like, our students are from
26 different countries, they are 95% international
passport holders, they come from 19 different
Global Network Schools, the class is 41% women and an astonishing 98% of the class speak two or more languages and 46% speak three or more languages. So I think you can see what an incredible and international cohort this is, and I’m excited for
you to get to know them a little bit better today. So to kick off questions, I would like to ask each of
you, if you could tell me how you first heard about the MAM program, and what made you interested in it. – Okay, so for me it
was like really quick. I first stumbled upon the MAM program when I was applying to UBC. So this is something
that was actually listed at the UBC website. And then during my interview
for the MBA program, I actually had that conversation
at length with a recruiter. And then at UBC itself,
you did get to visit as you did with me.
– I did. – With Kate, so that was
pretty much the way in which I got to learn about
the MAM program at Yale. – Great. – Great, yeah my first introduction to the MAM program was two years ago, because a very close
friend of mine came here. He did the same track so he
went to INCAE Business School and then applied to Yale. And then I was capable of
witnessing his whole path and that for me was mind-blowing. So it was really like
the first introduction that really told me I should apply. And part of applying to INCAE was also being capable applying
to this program as well. So that was great. And then David Bach came
to the campus at INCAE, and then I just felt
it’s like the final event that really told me to apply, so yeah. – I always love to hear that our alums and our current students are
advocates for our program, so that’s nice to hear
that one of your friends did the program as well. – Yeah. – I also heard about the
program through visits that happened on our campus. And I was saying to some
of the others earlier, it happened very early on in my program when I was still completely
overwhelmed just by the MBA. But it planted a seed. And what I learned over
the course of my MBA was that all these opportunities are going to be presented
to you during your MBA, and this was one of the biggest ones. And as I went along in the MBA, it just became something that I could not miss the opportunity for. So that was my journey. – Yeah, mine was actually
pretty similar to Kevin’s. In doing research, I knew
that I really wanted to do an international MBA, specifically between the East Asia and Western, or perhaps
North American space. And I knew that my base would most definitely want
to be located in Japan, so I needed to find a program and a school that would allow me to balance that. And Yale was the perfect compliment. During our orientation
at Hitotsubashi ICS, the director of the MBA program, made the existence of the MAM very clear. Throughout the year,
we would have visitors such as David Bach, who
really sold the program to us, and as well as exchange
students and graduates that we would interact with,
either on campus in Tokyo, or during GW. And they all very much
advocated for the program. And I felt that this was basically a must apply at that point. – Great, I’m glad to hear so many of you were able to attend an
information session. I think I can speak for a lot of our team, including our director
of admissions, Joanne, who’s helping us on the backend here, where travel and getting
to visit your schools and getting to see you in person, is one of our favorite parts of the job. So a question that we get a lot, is that our prospective
applicants are either working or currently in their MBA, and they’re wondering how
you juggle your MBA studies, or work, while you’re
applying to the MAM program. – Okay, I guess I get to go– – Sure, yeah, jump in. – So for me, prior to my MBA, I spent a lot of time
actually working on ASIS, so as I told you, I’ve spent a lot of time in the life sciences industry, and there was a point in
time where I actually thought of applying into medical school. And it was a point where I
had to do a lot of reflecting and just finding out,
figuring out who I was and where I wanted to go. So during that time, I wrote a lot, I thought a lot, wrote
a lot on what I wanted and sort of like figured
out where I wanted to go. So, that was pretty much on paper already. And then by the time I
was getting into the MBA, when I did get accepted, ’cause I later applied for
the MAM during that program, I was actually in Germany on an international emersion
experience for my school, when I actually started
writing my work down for the program. And I think because I’d
already figured out who I was, how the MAM actually fit with my goals, and where I wanted to be, it was much easier to
then just write it down. And then I had the
support of some students and other people who were
already knew my trajectory and what my interests were, because by the time I was
starting, as I told you, people in my program in the MBA knew that I was interested
in the MAM program. So even when deadlines were coming, it was like a reminder,
Mtise, might be time for you to start writing that. So yeah, so I wrote down everything while I was still in Germany, and because people already knew
that I was interested in it, I had editors who were on the ready, to go to look at my work and
just help me push it forward. So within like a space
of two or three days that was edited and spat back to me for me to actually do the submission. I actually did the
submission in Barcelona. I was like moving around. And then I’d stop, try to
find like network anywhere, where there was a cafe, few
I find and I would hit send. And then I did my interview in France, when I was visiting another
person within the same time. But yeah, so it was really
like pre-planning in a sense, and having a lot of other
things ready on the way and having that support system to actually help me
navigate the entire process, that allowed it to work out really well. – Great. Anyone else have any advice? – I think that the best
advice looking back I think would be just take
your time and start early. ‘Cause at the end there’s a lot of aspects of the application you need to get ready. Like the references and like the Dean’s
recommendation et cetera. And I mean in my case
I applied in round one and prior to that, it
was just Christmas break so it was really hard to coordinate like the actual recommendations, just getting everything in by the time. And same with the essays at the end. I think it’s best if you start early and then just let it rest for a while, and just complete it. Give your time and space to do so. Whether it’s the essays, the interviews, all the different aspects, I think that you have to
like really take your time to just put your best effort in and just be honest, but at the same time just make sure you have
the being calm enough just to give your best as it, so yeah. – Great. Well now that you guys have
been here for a few months, can you tell me what value you
think that the MAM is adding to your MBA studies. – I can start with that. – Sure. – As I said before, I’m going
through a career change. So, I mean it is not as
radical as other cases may be, ’cause at the end I did start in design, but I did a lot of project managing during my time at Nicaragua. But yeah, at the end day, it’s a change and there’s a lot of classes additional to the ones I took at my MBA, especially in finance and strategy, which is my goal to focus on. And I think that the
different, whether it’s quality or different classes, the people in it with different backgrounds, and it’s a different
experience from my MBA, and I think that has given me just a good compliment as Chris said. And overall, I think
it’s been very enhancing, very enriching for the overall experience, so it’s been great. – Great. – Yeah, I’ve had a
fantastic experience too. I think when you have
access to the full catalog, the full breadth of the
Yale University resources, academic and otherwise, you really have the ability
to tailor your experience, if you feel that you need
more finance experience or you want to interact
more with those who have it. Or like Mtise and I, we’re looking for more
healthcare individuals or like-minded individuals, we have the opportunity to do so. And really you’re kind of crafting your own, I should say,
roadmap to the future. It’s something that’s more possible here, as a complimenter to your past experience back at your home university. And the level of customization is kind of really where I see
the most intense value added. – Yeah, can I quickly add to that? – Of course. – Yeah, so I think the other
thing that has been remarkable, even like tapping these
different other things, I think for me, was the
ability to actually develop your own leadership
philosophies and expand on it, through learning from others. So like with healthcare, there’s something that they
call the Healthcare Colloquium, it’s a two-semester-long program I know, where they bring in
healthcare professionals from different spheres, you
know, people who are CEOs, vice presidents of big entities, you know, CVS, TOGAF, Harvard
Pilgrim Health Care and up from all angles, and I
feel like the variety of all those different types
of high caliber individuals that actually come to school, offers a very huge platform for someone to actually
learn from others as well, and to try to help you figure out what sort of a leader you want to be and where it is, how you see yourself creating change in the future. At least that’s something
that I really wanted to do and I feel like that has
been like a great added value in that particular sense. And with the classes from other places, like from the other schools, you also get to see how
other individuals think, whether it’s undergrads or people from like
the School of Forestry, full of sustainability
focused kind of ideas, like there’s room to learn a lot and expand your thought process and your world in general, yeah. – Great. – Just a final point
from me I think on that. I think that from the
position of an applicant, it can be extremely intimidating to think about coming to
a place of this caliber. And certainly my colleagues
have talked about the sort of people that
you have access to here. So what I’d like to say is, just as the structure of every course is such that it accommodates
the huge diversity of students that come here to Yale, and so I just, I think that
one should be conscious, that no matter what
your pre MBA background, there’s a place for you here, and there’s an incredible opportunity to get out of your comfort zone and learn something new. So, you know, you’re
encouraged from day one to go outside your comfort zone, to challenge yourself
on something brand new. I mentioned the software earlier, I don’t come from a financial background, so I’m trying to challenge
myself on some of those. And the design and the
structure of courses, is such that you learn
an incredible amount, even if you don’t come from
a strong background there. And I think that we
can probably all agree, that it is intimidating but
it’s an amazing opportunity to really dive deep into something that maybe is not a strength. – Great, well you guys
have set me up perfectly for another one of our
most popular questions. And as our viewers probably know, since they’re starting their
research on the MAM program, you get to select the
majority of your courses. It’s 90% elective courses,
that’s up to your choice. So can you tell me how
you chose these courses and maybe a few that
you’re taking right now. – I’ll go first. So I am taking Epidemiology which is totally healthcare, ’cause I think that’s one of the things I really wanted to explore around here. So I’m actually taking that course at the School of Public Health. And then I’m also taking a course that’s called Start-up Practicum. So with the whole social background and interests that I had, the Start-up Practicum
is actually a course that allows you to really delve deep into any business idea
that you might have. It might be something
that’s socially based, it might be a full profit
business that you’re thinking of, but essentially you’re
just given a platform to just work on your idea, develop it and actually push it forward. Which is like really awesome. And there’s another one similar to that, I think it’s called
Start-up Founder Studies. Which I am not taking but I think someone here might be taking. But yeah, I think those
are the two classes that I can highlight amongst many others. And I’ll let the rest of the panel, Kevin. – I mean, in fall one I took a class called Entrepreneurship
Requisition which is a must. I really enjoyed it, it’s a lot of work and the professor is just really good, both from an academic point of view and from an experience point of view. He’s really engaging
and every single class the case maker is on the
screen, just answering questions so that was great. And then it’s very focused on finance and very focused on how
the life of an entrepreneur can be changed or can be different by acquiring a new company. So I thought that class was great. Other than that, I’m taking a
Strategic Communication class which I think Chris can also talk about. And that one is really challenging ’cause at the end it’s pushing
you out of your comfort zone and it’s really tough
just to get up on stage and talk about the best thing
you have in your wallet. But it’s, I think that’s like what represents Yale at the end ’cause it’s like pushing
you out of the comfort zone, just learning new things
with different people, and I think that has
been like the main theme, over in all the classes, so that’s been great. – I think for me, the
classes where you get access to incredible speakers, are
always a highlight for me. So I took a course called,
The Future of Global Finance with Professor Garten. And essentially it was six
sessions over a half semester, and in every session he had a real leader in the world of global finance, and on one hand we covered
stuff like block chain and emerging technologies in finance, and on the other hand we discussed things like the financial crisis, and I really enjoy those kind of big picture thinking classes. And the speakers he brought in are people who helped lead the US out of
the global financial crisis, or someone who was the lead economist at Goldman Sachs for many years, and so the caliber of speakers is something completely out of this world. And that course was
hugely enriching for me, again, especially as someone
who’s non-financial background, so that was a highlight. – I think we’ve covered a lot of points. For myself, part of what
factored into course selection was how much breadth do I
think will be encompassed within the material and
the classroom discussions within that individual course. And what I discovered was
there are many opportunities for outside students as well, students outside of the
school of management to join our courses, whether they be undergrads, or
multidisciplinary individuals such as MD PHDs, School of Forestry, School of Divinity students, and they really bring an
entirely different perspective to an entirely different
voice to the classroom, I think more importantly. Because no matter how
diverse we are as MBAs, we’re all still MBAs and coming from more of the, I should say
traditional viewpoints when it comes to perhaps the management of non profit organizations. But when someone from the Divinity School approaches the same case, they look at it from a
very, very different lens. And I think that being able to interact with these kind of individuals
within our classroom as well, has been a really big
factor in my engagement and my takeaways. And I would maybe advise or caution people to also think about whether or not this is truly the most diverse environment it can possibly be. And our classrooms tend to be that way. – Great. – I think one last point.
– Sure. – Because at the end I
think that the availability of different courses throughout SOM, can be overwhelming. And I think we’ve all been in the position where we’ve had like 36 credits and we need to just cut it down to actually something feasible and something that will be
regarding the workload, right? So it would be something acceptable. But yeah, I think that,
and my advice to you is that contact previous
generations of the MAMs, contact us if you need any advice when it comes to actually
selecting the courses. ‘Cause I think there’s no better advice, than the one from someone who already took that class before. And try to focus and I think we
probably going to cover this, but having that outreach to alumni has been something
that’s been great for us and I encourage you to do so as well. Just, people tend to be very open and it encourages us to be open as well. So just take advantage of that when it comes to course selecting or any other aspect of the MAM actually. – Great. Speaking of that, can you
tell me different ways that you have been working
with or speaking with alums? – I think I can start with that. I’ve been taking advantage or enjoying that part of SOM this fall. Especially in recruiting
’cause there’s a lot of SOMers all over the word in different companies and different industries. And being capable of
just sending a cold email to another alumni, it’s awe inspiring how they’re capable of responding with all the openness and flexibility just to give you 15 minutes of their time just to talk about their experience, their recruiting process, their experience in the company they are and it’s been great. It’s been very open, very collaborative and it’s been one of my
favorite parts of SOM. – Just to build on what Kevin has said, so Kevin’s talked about how
he’s looking to go into finance and I am someone who’s
still kind of investigating what a future role might look like within the industries
that I’m interested in. And when I had the opportunity
to reach out to alumni, they’ve been so open in terms
of having that discussion and helping me explore the
different career opportunities. And so there’s a lot of different angles from which the alumni can help you. And the openness has
been the biggest surprise and one of the biggest advantages of being a Yale SOM student, so it’s fantastic. – Yeah, and talking of
the openness part of it, so what has happened, at least in my view and my experience and
what I’ve seen so far, usually when you reach out to one alumni, they actually are so willing to connect you with the next one. So that’s how my networking
has been going on. Like you just converse
with someone legitimately, you know, like trying to
figure out a certain pathway, if they can’t really quite
answer what you’re asking for, if they feel like there’s another person who’s gone through the program who might actually help you most, or at least try to fill in the gaps of what they couldn’t necessarily fill in during that talk with you, they will just straight
away like refer you to them, you know like reach out
to this particular person and that other person. And then if you ever want to come back, you know, I’m here, let’s just talk. – Yeah. – Yeah, and then starting off
besides just like blind emails as well that can be sent out, you can actually, I love reg webinars So when we have meetings sometimes, ’cause we bring in alums
to just like talk to us, and just following up with them so they can always be like the first layer in talking to other people, and then you start growing
your network from then on. – That’s great, it’s wonderful to hear that we have such a
great alumni community. Speaking of community, how
would you guys describe the community here at SOM? – So maybe I can start on that. One of the things that
bowled me over the most about coming to SOM,
even before we got here, was the way that we were onboarded. So something specific
that’s important at SOM, is diversity and inclusion. And I mentioned at the beginning, it’s very intimidating to come here. So even with the offer letter in your hand and the plane ticket booked, it’s a really big adjustment and it’s intimidating to come here. And sort of a couple of
months even before we came, there was all this activity going on. We were able to reach out to people, we had the admissions
team to reach out to too, but we also already had a career officer helping us put together
our resumes and get ready. The other element of that
was that we went through some sort of online training, in terms of what’s the
culture like at Yale in terms of sort of
diversity and inclusion. And when you get here, that’s reinforced and that’s
a real lived experience, it’s not just words on the wall. And so when SOM says it’s
committed to inclusion, they really mean it. And I’ve been really impressed
as to how they onboard new people like us for that experience. So in terms of community,
that’s a highlight for me. – I feel like you can
basically talk to anybody at any time, about anything. You’ll have amazing conversations about things you never imagined you would have a conversation about. And your classmates, whether
they are upperclassmen, or first years or in different programs, they’ll always make time for you, whether they be alumni as
well, I suppose in that regard. And I just really enjoy the kind of spontaneous
element of being here. – Yeah. – There’s much of it that’s formulaic, we understand that this is an institution of higher learning. There is an academic rigor
requirement and quality standard, and this is all very well
documented and tangible. But what about everything
that’s in between, right? The kind of fuzz. And I think that’s very beautiful fuzz in the case of SOM. Where we get the opportunity
to, well, just sit down and chat about amazing things and who knows what’ll come out of it. Hopefully something great for the world. – I’m actually still trying
to wrap my head around how down to earth people are here. – Yeah. – Like, you don’t anticipate it. Like I didn’t expect this at all. You know, the fact that you
can just walk along corridors and then people are
like genuine, you know, themselves and in tune and just willing to give
up themselves as they are, not unassuming, humble, but
very intelligent in a sense. It’s hard to wrap your head around it. I’m trying to still wrap my head around the feel that we get in this building. But it’s really remarkable
and I really do enjoy that as well that we can even
have like coffee chats with one another. ‘Cause usually when you
talk about coffee chats, in information in interviews, you know, like oh, going out, but we’re able to even
do it within ourselves and I think that’s awesome. – Yeah, I think it talks a lot about the culture and the openness. And as Caroline said, it’s overwhelming just
thinking you’re going to Yale and you start thinking that you need to at the
end to prepare yourself to having this high level
conversation with everyone. – Yeah. – You expect that level and at the end you’re dealing with people, and people that just like
you, they have a life, they have that balance, they have all those different
topics you can talk about and it’s just, it’s very
down to earth, very humble, but at the same time very engaging and very intellectual and that’s honest. – Yeah. – And if someone actually does
need that high level push, as well for those who are like considering consulting or stuff like that, I feel like there’s a
whole huge of support and like a whole team that
just like runs on that. You know like it’s an engine that’s just like been fueled, with everyone trying to push everything and everyone to the best limit and the best standard that they can be. So from like holding, you know,
if it’s like info sessions, or just like mock interviews, how to case in together, making sure there’s teams. And when I think there’s
a whole huge of support that you can get in every
angle that you can think of and that’s cool. – I agree, even as a staff member, I often get asked what my
favorite part of SOM is and I always say the community, so I’m so happy to hear that
you guys feel the same way. Switching gears a little bit, can you tell me what
type of career resources are available at SOM? – I can start it off. Caroline touched on this point. The fact that I think it
was like two months before we actually got into Yale, or got I mean, it was in June I think, or
probably the end of May, that a career officer just approached us and just started preparing us with the whole resume, cover letters, all the interview setting that would actually put us in a good spot when we came here and started recruiting. So for me that was great. It was something kind of new in the sense that it prepared me to tackle the recruiting
process differently. And throughout, I think
that the availability of different company presentations, job postings, the support
from career services to actually have a conversation regarding I don’t know, any specific topic, or a point in your resume or
it comes down to that detail, where the support is really helpful when it comes to applying and it’s been great.
– Okay. – I think for me, the
word that comes to mind is customization and I
think that, you know, you’ve got a team of career officers that are dedicated to helping you find the right place for you. And for one person that
might be consulting, where there’s a very specific path and there’s certain things you
need to do to get into that. For the next person it might be exploring different
roles that are available, re-envisioning how your career could look depending on the things
that you’re looking for. Maybe you want to stay
in the United States, maybe you want to go
back to your home country but make a pivot. And you would work directly through a series of appointments
with somebody from the CDO to map that path out and for them to help you
access the resources, the correct alumni, to achieve
what you’re here to achieve. So there’s by no means a pressure for you to be in one sort
of career track or another. And I think that for me is critical, because I think everybody
has a different path and they’re going to find a different way to get where they want to go. – Great.
– Yeah, oh, may I– – Sure, go on, yes please. – To sort of add on to that. I was going to comment
that recruiting in general is just an arduous process, right? Nobody wants to go through
all of this effort and work and be met with a not so great result. And we tend to have to walk it alone. It’s a lonely, very lonely
path much of the time. Even with the amount of support we get from our friends and family. And recruiting at Yale is as integrated and as basically together, I should say, as it possibly can be. You really do have a partner
in your recruiting process as much as they can possibly be. And I very much appreciate the fact that the support does exist. Because I do understand
that there is a limit for as far as how much they can do for us and this is by far and away
the most support I’ve ever had, at any institution. So it’s very much felt in, I
think, in our every day lives. – Yeah and I mean if away
from on-campus recruiting and everything else, I think the other thing that you can do like in terms of going above and beyond, we are very close to New York
and Boston, like literally. Just like an hour or so away. And there’s times that people
have actually taken time to actually go and attend
recruiting events there. Sometimes we’ve even organized
our own clubs to do that. But there’s also people who’ve
gone outside their own way to make those networks and connections and really like find a job. And I think for those of
you who are like coming in and trying to consider those options, they are there and they can be explored. – Great, yes. New Haven is very centrally located between New York and Boston, and it’s an easy train ride down to DC. But as you know and as you all did, our students are coming
from all over the world. So can you tell me a little bit about what life in New
Haven has been like? Particularly housing, we
get a lot of questions about housing and how to find an apartment and things like that. – I think the best advice would be talk to previous MAMs
or even if you know MBAs whether it’s first year or second years, talk to someone who can
refer you to someone else, who can actually give you an advice. And that’s very much easier
than one may think applying. ‘Cause I think that there’s not a myth, but this idea that you can’t reach out, it’s very hard to talk
to people and it’s not. It’s completely not and that’s something I would have loved to
learn while I was applying. So just reach out and I’m sure that, just to give you an idea, I did that, I would
have loved to do it more in a greater sense, but I reached out and it turned out that that person was
leaving the MAM program, and then he just left all of his stuff and it was a perfect decision because at the end, I got his
apartment, I got his stuff and it was just way more
easier than I thought. And same goes with getting the roommates. And at the end, I think the starting stage is to just reach out, just talk to people and just get a hold of what
housing is really all about and just build it up the way you can. And I think that’s very much
easier than one may think. ‘Cause we all enter
here not knowing anyone and not knowing not even the place, I don’t think New Haven is a
very popular spot to travel. But at the end, you get to build your own different aspects of your housing, whether it’s housing or any other aspect. Yeah, just reach out. – Yeah. – I think this is another element where the character of the community is really clear and palpable. It’s not just in the
job hunt or academically that they’re helpful, they’re very willing
to give you their time even before you’re onboarded. – Yeah. – And housing is highly personal, right? We all have our little quirks that we want to live within X
minutes of this kind of store and I need a coffee shop that’s
maximum two streets away, or something like that. And the students,
current students or alum, are very willing to kind
of listen to your request and work through that process with you. And I got advice to the point where they were able to tell me, “Oh, it’s on a very well lit street, “so you’ll have no problem
during the winter.” I mean that’s incredibly specific, right? That they’re thinking about
lighting during the winter as being part of our
experience as a student. And the fact that they go
that extra mile for you, it really speaks volumes to that as well. – Yeah, I think like once
you have started though, like the experience itself
living within New Haven I think is something that’s
great and to think about. Like I personally find it very serene and really thought provoking, ’cause it sort of like
multi-faceted as you say, like Yale is large, right? There’s multiple campuses across, than every other block that you get in, so there’s like this very cool eco system that you can be in. And there’s lots of
restaurants as well around. I personally love nature a lot so like every school that I’ve been to has some green of sorts,
and something to do. And I think being in New Haven has just given me that avenue to actually go out and explore. I’ve gone hiking at different places, you know, like within New Haven itself and then you also have
access to the closer areas like Hampden and even Springfield. And all of those have good, good centers. So I think it’s a good place
to be and to learn, yeah. – Great.
– Together. – Now this may be a little bit of a difficult question to answer, because I know every day for you all is a little bit different. But can you tell me what
maybe a typical day like is, for an MAM student? – Okay, I can start. So it depends on who you are, but I’m a little bit of an early riser, so I like to get to campus
before the storm starts. So I like to get here maybe
half an hour to an hour before my first class. And then typically on most days, you would have say two to three classes. Some days more, some days less. And in between those classes there’s always a lot going on on campus. So one of my favorite things to do is to be on every possible mailing list and try to find out where
the speakers are coming in. So a week or two ago, I went to a talk by a Nobel
Prize winning economist who presented an unpublished paper to us which was a huge opportunity. The room was absolutely packed from all different faculties at Yale, because people are just
interested in these things. So on most days I would go to
some kind of event like that or alternatively, a recruiting event. So lots of companies come on campus and they present their companies to us, they talk about different roles available and those are sometimes over lunchtime. And we get fed a lot here at Yale SOM, so there’s often like a free lunch as well at one of these recruiting events. Which helps you because
your days are super busy. Usually be on campus till
at least six o’clock, so it’s a long day. Going back and forth between classes, trying to get some homework in, going to those speaker events, going to the recruiting events. And then after hours,
hopefully once a week or more there’s some social stuff. And so particularly in the MAM cohort, we’re quite close so there’s often events that we’ve organized amongst ourselves, sharing a dinner at somebody’s house or all meeting at one of the bars in town. So, it’s an extremely busy life but there’s never a dull moment. – No, no at all. And actually just to
show you how happy we are with the free food, we
actually have a Slack chat now, #freefoodforeveryone so
actually jump on, yeah. – Great, well we actually
only have a few minutes left so what I think is a
perfect note to end on, is if you could each kind of chime in and tell me if you have
any advice for any students who are just starting
their research process, or maybe have started their application, what advice you would give to them. – I guess I can start? I guess I could start. So, I would say definitely spend time reflecting on where you want to be, right? Where you are now and where
it is that you want to go. And then consider how your
dreams and what you want actually fit in with Yale
and how that match really is. And then apply yourself really, like giving yourself enough
time as we said earlier on, like Kevin had mentioned,
to write that down and when you are doing
your whole application, in terms of like reviewing
the essays and editing it, ’cause that’s like very important, I would advise that you
actually reach out to people who know you so well, so that when you’re explaining yourself and you’re telling your story, people can actually feel what’s
really coming out with it that’s truly you or not you at all, ’cause it helps a lot when that’s actually really figured out. And then if you really going to come like Caroline said, if
you’re aim is to come and then stay here in the US, to also like work later on, I’d also add in the idea
of even starting to network before you’re actually here, so you can look into that
as well considerably. Yeah, I think in a nutshell, that would be my bits of advice for students to do.
– Great. – My advice would be to
reach out to one of us. Very simply, we will make time for you and I can almost guarantee that by the end of that conversation, you will definitely
submit that application. So reach out to us, we’ll answer
your questions about life, academics, our professional experiences, whatever you want to ask, we’ll
answer I think very honestly. And you’ll understand whether or not this is precisely what
you would like to do, I guess with your next year. It’s a year of your life, it’s a year that you
are taking away as well and giving to the school and giving to your classmates. So we want to make sure that
it’s the best fit for you. And I have a good feeling that you will be very
happy with that one year if you choose to spend it here. But we would very much
like to have a conversation about that.
– Great. – I would echo what Chris said. I wouldn’t spend any more
time sitting on the fence. I would just decide to apply, get that decision out of
the way really quickly. One of the best decisions I’ve ever made, without a doubt. And also, again on this issue of feeling like this is a big application and what are my chances in
the grand scheme of things, I would just say bring yourself and be as authentic as possible, you know an interview to
come to a place like this sounds incredibly intimidating but my experience was very positive. A conversational interview and I felt like I could be myself. And I consider it a huge
privilege to be considered among this group of MAM students, but there truly is a hugely diverse cohort and I think that’s reflective of a very open recruitment process, in terms of new students, so apply. – Yeah I think an advice I
would have liked to hear, heard, I mean back then I was also struggling with the whole application process and I can talk a lot about it, but I think that the
overall advice I would give is just push the application, and just put all the
effort into it and apply. And one advice I received
when I was applying was do not cross the bridge before
getting to the actual bridge. You know it’s like, think about
it’s a unique opportunity, it’s a once in a lifetime, definitely. As for me, I’m not planning on continuing studying after this, so it’s like, just take the shot, apply and at the end I think
it’ll be very rewarding. And I know it’s a huge investment, and I know it’s a lot of
time, a lot of effort, but at the end I think
it’s totally worth it and I can also speak a lot about that. But yeah, just push the application, just move forward, just
put all your effort on it, I don’t think you have
any reason not to apply. And I’m talking about
myself, looking back, but at the end I think
it’s just a good advice. Just give it a shot at a once
in a lifetime opportunity that’s going to be very
rewarding, idyllic. – Great. Well I would like to thank
Mtise, Kevin, Caroline and Chris for joining me today. And I’ll put their information
on the screen again. As they’ve said, they’re
very open to your questions and we’re so appreciative of that. And if you are just
beginning your research, we did also do a webinar
of our program overview so you can find that on our website. But please reach out to these students, please reach out to the admissions office if you have any questions, and we’ll be here to support
your application process. So thank you again for joining us and have a great day.

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