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Why are ice climbing axes and mountaineering axes different? | Ice Climbing Vlog Ep. 6


So if you want to know what specific ice axe to pick up then watch this video Generally, I would say there’s two kind of axes there is the mountaineering axe and there is technical ice climbing axe But Petxl actually just released a new axe which you can kinda say is a hybrid of both and we’ll cover that in the end What makes the mountaineering axe special is that it’s has a longer shaft it’s not aggressive it has probably a longer pick and maybe an adze So one important factor of the mountaineering axe is that it has the right length What you should be aware of is that when you hang the mountaineering axe from your hand it should rests just above your your ankle And there is this one! This is the more technical ice climbing axe The technical ice climbing axe is much more aggressive it’s much more curved it has a more ergonomic handle so you can get those really, really tough swings when you do when you do technical ice climbing You will also see that the teeth are very much different on the technical ice climbing axe than on the mountaineering axe This is for more bites into the ice So, Petzl release this one this is the Petzl Quark [2018] and has some very distinct features that actually covers both needs in terms of a mountaineering axe and technical ice climbing axe It doesn’t come in different sizes as the mountaineering axe, but it has some pretty cool features It still have the aggressiveness of the technical ice climbing axe but it has a much less bent handle This makes it very good for climbing snow sloes and to stick the handle into the snow which is a really general and normal tactic that you would use to to climb snow slopes So right now my favourite ice axe that would be the Petzl Quark [2018] because it is so dynamic and you can use it for so varied purposes Let us know what is favourite the ice axe by leaving a comment below

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12 thoughts on “Why are ice climbing axes and mountaineering axes different? | Ice Climbing Vlog Ep. 6

  1. Also, my favorite axe is the Petzl Summit 2. I haven't done any technical climbing so no need for a different type yet.

  2. For all around use my favorite ice axe is the Petzl Sum'tec. It is good for standard mountaineering stuff but if you need you could do short ice and mixed sections with it.

  3. Thank you for the overview. Very helpful. It would be great to see a video on how to best pair axes (like if one does general and technical mountaineering!)

  4. First things first: Thank you, for the efforts, you spend in your videos. They are pretty amazing.
    I use the Petzl Sumtec for everything requires just one axe. Its a bit lighter, longer and less aggressive than the Quark, but still a very technical ice axe. But most of the time, i just use a trecking pole.

  5. We breathe air not oxygen
    Air and water are the same element in different states
    Oxygen is a compressed and super dried air
    Nitrogen is oxygen with nitrogen particles added thru a ceramic seive in the last process- concentration of nitrogen is controlled at this point
    These only exist as manmade products in containers.
    Once exposed to air they will revert back if they can re absorb moisture.
    These products are used in industry to keep products free of moisture
    Eg steel will corrode when exposed to moisture so furnaces are fed oxygen and the metal forms with super dry air in its matrices –
    Like wise foods are packed with nitrogen so they don’t spoil because of moisture

    Lungs require air to be at 100% humidity- mucosa regulates this by its salt content. Giving off moisture to the air as it passes.
    Lungs do best near the sea where the air contains water vapour plus salt
    Cold air is drier
    Mountaineers get dehydrated and their lungs get drier and lung function reduces
    The lungs are the pressure maintainers of our body
    We are water fuelled
    The lungs take water vapour from the air and inject this into red blood cells thru bubbles formed at the alveoli
    Surfactant is produced to do this
    Lung sounds are caused by bubbles
    The acoustic bubble by Tim Leighton
    The red blood cells carry water not oxygen
    The arteries carry hydrated RBC’s and the veins dehydrated RBC’s that are denser and therefore darker
    The RBC’s carry water to the tissues for the cells to use
    The kidneys regulate RBC production
    Water inside the cells changes to a gel like state and separates charged particles so potential currents form
    Work inside cells use this currency to do work
    This water needs red light to remain in this energetic state
    Infra red light is always around us but more at dawn and dusk
    The fourth phase of water by Gerald Pollack
    Water is an element not H2O
    Free eBook
    100 reasons water is not H2O by Peter Peterson
    https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/930017
    Lungs dry up when exposed to oxygen
    90% of people exposed to oxygen in anaesthetics have their alveoli collapse
    Oxygen is toxic and damages lungs and eyes.
    Water and air interchange depending on pressure and temperature
    Water boils as it forms bubbles and becomes air
    Air will condense to water
    Water and air have a form of tubules that produce bubbles
    Bubbles carry stuff, even sand
    A full bubble is called a drop
    Tubules migrate bubbles

    Water accommodates and accompanies substances
    Never reacting with anything
    Instead acting like a colloid
    Water cycles because of this
    Water can free itself from the degradation it is exposed too because of this

    We breathe the gas form of water called air.

    Their is only air – no oxygen or nitrogen or any other gas in the atmosphere- these gases must be processed to be formed by man.

    Water was known to be an element till Lavoisier and Cavendish promoted the compound of H2O backed by the scientific elite

    No wonder science and medicine is so retarded
    The bare basics have been disguised – till now

  6. Thanks for this video!
    I m looking to buy my first axe and i m think to opt for Petzl Sum Tec.
    Normally for Ski Alp

  7. I watched several 10min+ videos before this that didn’t really explain the difference between the two. Thanks for the straightforward explanation 🙏🏻 Subscribed.

  8. Do you think the Quark is a suitable length for mountaineering(I'm 5' 9")? This is my first winter getting into both mountaineering and ice climbing, and I'm considering just getting a pair of Quarks. I would be using one with an adze for mountaineering, and switching the adze to use both with hammers for less aggressive ice climbing(WI2-4). I'd like to have axes that suit both purposes well, but I'd rather buy a pair of ice tools and have a seperate axe for mountaineering if the Quarks don't excel in both. Thanks!

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