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INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII: Who’s Homeschooling and Why?


>>MALIA: COMING UP NEXT ON
INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII. WHO’S HOMESCHOOLING AND WHY? [INTRO MUSIC]>>MALIA: ALOHA AND WELCOME TO
INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII. I’M MALIA MATTOCH.
DISENCHANTMENT WITH TRADITIONAL SCHOOL, MORE
FAMILY TIME.>>AND THE FREEDOM TO TEACH
SPIRITUALITY ARE JUST SOME OF MANY REASONS THOUSANDS OF
HAWAI’I PARENTS TEACH THEIR CHILDREN AT HOME.
PLUS MANY HOME SCHOOLING FAMILIES PREFER A CURRICULUM TAILORED
TO THEIR CHILD’S UNIQUE PERSONALITY, INTERESTS
PACE AND LEARNING STYLE. BUT BEING YOUR CHILD’S
TEACHER ISN’T EASY, AND IT OFTEN REQUIRES A GREAT DEAL OF
SACRIFICE. TONIGHT, ON INSIGHTS ON PBS
HAWAII, WE’LL EXAMINE HOME SCHOOLING IN HAWAII AND LEARN
ABOUT THE BENEFITS AND CHALLENGES OF TEACHING YOUR
CHILDREN AT HOME. WE ALWAYS LIKE TO HEAR FROM
VIEWERS LIKE YOU SO SHARE WITH US YOUR QUESTIONS AND
COMMENTS ABOUT HOMESCHOOLING BY CALLING 973-1000 ON OAHU
OR 800-238-4847 FROM A IT NEIGHBOR ISLAND.
YOU CAN ALSO WATCH INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII STREAMED LIVE AT
PBSHAWAII.ORG. CLICK ON THE TITLE TONIGHT’S
SHOW ON FIND US ON TWITTER AT PBS HAWAI’I.
NOW, TO OUR GUEST. BETH BROWN HOME SCHOOLED HER
TWO COLLEGE AGED STUDENTS SINCE THEY WERE IN
KINDERGARTEN AND CONTINUES TO HOME SCHOOL A THIRD CHILD WHO
IS NOW 15 YEARS OLD. MS. BROWN WAS INTRODUCED TO
HAWAI’I HOME SCHOOLING THROUGH FAMILY’S HEART CHURCH
IN PALOLO AND DECIDED TO HOME SCHOOL EVALUATING THE
NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLING AND CONSIDERING THE FINANCIAL
OBLIGATIONS REQUIRED TO ATTEND PRIVATE SCHOOL.
SHELDON HAS BEEN HOMESCHOOLING HER TWO SONS
AGES 11 AND 13 FOR SEVEN YEARS.
BECAUSE THE VANESSA SHELDON ARE A ARMY FAMILY, SHE ALSO
HOMESCHOOLED HER CHILDREN IN COLORADO, TEXAS AND JAPAN.
MS. SHELDON SAYS SHE CHOSE TO HOMESCHOOL BECAUSE SHE WAS
DISSATISFIED WITH THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN COLORADO.
ARIEL MIGUEL WAS HOME SCHOOLED IN BOTH GUAM AND
HAWAI’I FROM FIRST GRADE THROUGH SIXTH GRADE AND NOW
HAVE A 9TH GRADER AT MID-PACIFIC INSTITUTE.
HER HOMESCHOOL JOURNEY BEGAN AFTER SHE WAS BULLIED IN
KINDERGARTEN. ARIEL SAYS SHE ENJOYED BE
BEING HOMESCHOOLED BUT CURRENTLY ENJOYING THE
TRADITIONAL SCHOOL BECAUSE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES.
LACY RAZOR IS A FOUNDER AND COORDINATOR FOR THE OAHU HOME
SCHOOL CO-OP. MEMBERS ARE HOMESCHOOLING
FAMILIES WHO WANT TO EXPOSE THEIR CHILDREN TO ADDITIONAL
LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE COMMUNITY.
SUCH AS NATURE EXCURSIONS, CULTURAL TRIPS AND ARTISTIC
COLLABORATIONS. WHAT IS REQUIRED TO BEGIN
HOMESCHOOLING A CHILD?>>HAWAI’I HAS A REALLY GREAT
HOME SCHOOL LAW. WE, IF YOU DECIDE TO
HOMESCHOOL YOUR CHILD, YOU NEED TO WRITE A LETTER OF
INTENT OR SEND IN A FORM 4140 TO THE PRINCIPAL OF THE SCHOOL
THAT YOUR CHILD WITH ATTEND, WERE THEY TO ATTEND PUBLIC
SCHOOL. THAT’S HOW INITIATE THE
HOMESCHOOL JOURNEY. AFTER THAT, YOU NEED TO
PROVIDE A SOME FORM OF EITHER STANDARDIZED TEST, A REPORT
BY A CERTIFIED TEACHER OR A PROGRESS REPORT THAT YOU
WRITTEN OUT NARRATIVE DESCRIBING YOUR HOMESCHOOL TO
THAT PRINCIPAL EACH YEAR.>>MALIA: IS THAT THE END OF
THE ACADEMIC YEAR THAT THEY WERE — END OF ACADEMIC
YEAR. EACH YEAR THEREAFTER, YOU
HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME FORM OF PROGRESS REPORT.
IT CAN TAKE ONE OF THOSE THREE.
ALL AGES. THAT’S AT ALL AGES.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOME FORM OF PROGRESS REPORT.
THERE ARE SPECIFIC AGES THAT STANDARDIZED TESTING IS
REQUIRED BUT STANDARDIZED TESTING COULD BE USED FOR EACH
OF THE PROGRESS REPORTS.>>MALIA: VANESSA, I THINK YOU
WERE SAYING THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR YOU’RE GOING TO BE DOING
THIS TEST FOR YOUR CHILDREN HERE IN HAWAI’I.
IS IT COMPLICATED? IT IS NOT.
WE HAD A SCHOOL LETTER OF INTENT IS HELD.
LAST YEAR THEY CALLED ME AND ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO USE
THEIR TEST OR PROCTOR OPTIONS.
CERTAIN ONLINE PROGRAMS THAT YOU CAN TEST AND THEY’LL
PROCTOR IT FOR YOU OR FIND SOMEBODY WHO HAS A BACHELOR’S
DEGREE AND TEACHER WHO CAN PROCTOR IT FOR YOU.
>>MALIA: DO YOU REMEMBER THE TESTING PROCESS AT THE END OF
YOUR HOMESCHOOL YEARS?>>NO.
IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. SO I REMEMBER WE WENT IN A ROOM
AND IT WAS EITHER ON A COMPUTER OUR PAPER AND IT WAS
REALLY, IT WASN’T EASY BUT IT WASN’T HARD.
FILLING IN THE LINES AND EASY.>>MALIA: TELL US ABOUT HOW
YOUR HOMESCHOOL JOURNEY BEGAN? YOU WERE BEING
BULLIED. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE?>>SO I WAS BULLIED IN
KINDERGARTEN BECAUSE I WAS A LIGHTER SKIN COLOR.
AND IT GOT TO THE POINT WHERE I DIDN’T WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL
ANY MORE. AND I CRIED AND TOLD MY MOMMY
DON’T WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL. THEY’RE BULLYING ME.
SO THEN SHE DECIDED TO HOME SCHOOL ME.
>>MALIA: INTERESTING TO HEAR YOUR STORY.
IN PREPARING FOR THE SHOW, I HAD READ A STORY ON NPR THAT
DESCRIBED HOW MANY AFRICAN-AMERICAN FAMILIES
ARE TRAINED TO HOME SCHOOLING AND THE REASON THEY CITE IS
PREJUDICE WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT YOU EXPERIENCE.
THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE REASON THAT THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY
HAD CITED FOR HOMESCHOOLING VERSUS APPARENTLY IN A WHITE
AMERICAN NUMBER ONE REASON IS RELIGION.
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TAKE ON IT.
LACY, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT THE
NUMBER ONE REASON IN HAWAI’I WOULD BE CITED AS? WHAT DO
YOU HEAR FROM FAMILIES.>>MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR
GROUP ARE NOT HOMESCHOOLING BECAUSE OF RELIGIOUS REASONS.
MOST OF OUR MEMBERS IN OUR CO-OP, SOME OF THEM ARE
RELIGIOUS, OF COURSE, BUT THEY ARE DEFINITELY SEEKING
DIFFERENT EDUCATIONAL PHILOSOPHIES AND MORE
OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE CHILD-BASED LEARNING
OPPORTUNITIES.>>MALIA: SO ALTERNATIVE TO
TRADITIONAL SCHOOL.>>CORRECT.
>>MALIA: WHAT DO THEY IDENTIFY AS NOT BEING PART OF
THE TRADITIONAL SCHOOL EXPERIENCE THAT THEY WANT FOR
THEIR CHILDREN?>>WELL, CLASSROOM SIZE IS A
BIG PART OF IT. ALSO, NOT HAVING LECTURES.
AND THEN NOT HAVING TESTING SO OFTEN.
RIGHT NOW, MOST CHILDREN ARE BEING EDUCATED TO PASS A TEST.
AND THAT MODEL IS NOT SATISFACTORY TO A LOT OF THE
PARENTS IN OUR CO-OP.>>MALIA: I SEE YOU NODDING.
IS THAT YOUR SITUATION.>>SATISFACTION OF JUST IN
GENERAL WITH THE SCHOOL, EDUCATION, WITH SAFETY.
I HEAR ALL THE TIME THAT BIG ONE IS THE TESTING.
PEOPLE NOT SURE THAT THEIR KIDS ARE ACTUALLY ENJOYING
THEIR EDUCATION OR ACTUALLY LEARNING ANYTHING BECAUSE SO
MANY CLASSES HAVE TO TEACH A TEST.
TEACHERS HAVE TO TEACH A TEST. I THINK THAT REALLY TAKES AWAY
FROM THE EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE FOR THE CHILDREN.
>>MALIA: YOU ORIGINALLY MADE YOUR DECISION BECAUSE OF
SECURITY FOR YOUR CHILD.>>CORRECT.
>>MALIA: TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
>>WELL, WE WERE IN COLORADO SPRINGS, WE HAD STARTED OUT
WITH KINDERGARTEN IN THE SCHOOL AND END UP HAPPENING
REALLY, UNUSUALLY BAD SITUATION, I THINK.
IT WASN’T, LIKE TO SAY IT WASN’T COMMON.
MY SON WAS LEFT OUT IN THE FIELD AFTER FIELD DAY NEXT TO
AN YOUR WHERE THERE HAD BEEN ATTEMPTED KIDNAPPING.
I HAPPENED TO SHOW UP. HE WAS OUTSIDE BY HIMSELF.
POINT, I WAS LIVID. SEND YOUR KID TO SCHOOL, YOU
THINK THEY’RE GOING TO BE SAFE.
AT THAT POINT, WE HAD BEEN ACCEPTED BY A CHARTER SCHOOL,
FOLLOWED CLASSICAL EDUCATION MODEL I WAS REALLY INTERESTED
IN AT THE TIME. STARTED FOLLOWING FALL.
I LOVED THAT SCHOOL. VOLUNTEER YOU HAD ED ALL THE
TIME. I WAS ACTIVE AT THE SCHOOL.
END UP BEING BULLIED WITHIN THE CLASSROOM.
UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN THOUGH THE TEACHER WAS GREAT.
>>SHE WAS JUST ONE PERSON. COULDN’T CONSTANTLY MONITOR,
SEE WHAT THE KIDS ARE DOING. ON THE PLAYGROUND, IT WAS JUST
HER AND COUPLE OF CLASSES THAT WOULD BE OUT THERE AT A TIME.
HIS PERSONALITY CHANGED COMPLETELY.
BECAME A TOTALLY DIFFERENT KID.
AT THAT POINT, MY HUSBAND AND I SAID, WE’RE DONE.
WE’RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START HOMESCHOOLING.
>>MALIA: WHAT WOULD YOU SAY, WHO ARGUE CHILDREN NEED TO
LEARN HOW TO FUNCTION IN THE REAL WORLD.
THERE’S GOING TO BE MEAN PEOPLE, BULLIES, YOU CAN’T
JUST LET THEM. HAS ANYONE ASKED YOU?
>>YES. THAT COMES UP QUITE A BIT.
I DON’T FEEL THAT THEM BEING IN A SAFER ENVIRONMENT,
SHELTERING THEM. WHEN WE’RE SENDING OUR KIDS
AWAY, WE NEED TO KNOW THEY’RE IT GOING TO BE SAFE.
THAT’S NOT THE REAL WORLD. IN THE REAL WORLD, SOMEBODY
CAN HIT YOU AND THAT’S OKAY. TOUGHEN UP.
THAT’S NOT REAL WORLD. YOU LEARN HOW TO DEAL WITH
THEM BY INTERACTING EVERY DAY.
I DON’T FEEL THAT THAT IS AT ALL AN ISSUE.
>>MALIA: OR THAT YOU’RE BEING OVERPROTECTIVE.
>>NO. NOT AT ALL.
BECAUSE MY KIDS INTERACT WITH THE KIDS.
MAKE FRIENDS WITH THEM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
>>MALIA: AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES.
>>AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITY AND EVERY DAY ACTIVITIES.
STILL INTERACT WITH THE SAME KIDS THEY WOULD BE AT SCHOOL
WITH. I REALLY HONESTLY DON’T SEE
MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.>>MALIA: FOR YOU, WE
MENTIONED SPIRITUALLY IN THE INTRODUCTION.
CHURCH WAS PART OF YOUR REASON FOR THIS.
CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? WAS RELIGION A FACTOR FOR YOU?.
I DON’T KNOW IF REALLY RELIGION WAS A FACTOR FOR US.
DECIDING TO HOMESCHOOL. BUT IT DOES PLAY, OUR FAITH IS
SOMETHING THAT PERMEATES OUR WHOLE LIFE AND WHAT WE DO AND
WHO WE ARE AND HOW WE MAKE CHOICES AND THE CONVERSATIONS
THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR CHILDREN.
SO IT IS A PART OF OUR HOME SCHOOLING.
ALTHOUGH IT WASN’T A PRIMARY MOTIVATION FOR US TO DECIDE TO
HOMESCHOOL.>>MALIA: WHAT LED TO YOU
CONTINUE HOMESCHOOLING FOR YOUR CHILDREN? WHAT DID THEY
GAIN FROM IT THAT YOU LIKED?>>WE JUST REALLY LOVED THE
PROCESS OF DOING IT TOGETHER. WE USE A LITERATURE BASED
CURRICULUM. IT’S A LOT OF FUN TO READ THE
BOOKS TOGETHER. WE WOULD EXPLORE THINGS OUT IN
THE COMMUNITY RELATED TO WHAT WE WERE LEARNING.
HEAR THINGS ON N P. R RELATED TO WHAT WE WERE
LEARNING. TRAVEL ON THE MAINLAND.
BUMP INTO THINGS THAT YOU COULD MAKE CONNECTIONS W
BECAUSE YOU WERE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THEIR EDUCATIONAL
PROCESS, YOU KNEW WHAT THEY HAD BEEN HEARING READING AND
THINKING ABOUT. IT WAS A LOT OF FUN.
FOR US, IT WAS THE ENJOYMENT OF THE PROCESS.
AND THEN JUST THE POSITIVE CONVERSATIONS AND
RELATIONSHIPS THAT DEVELOPED IN OUR FAMILY.
WE OBSERVED IN THIS OTHER HOME SCHOOLING FAMILIES AND SAW IT
BEGIN TO HAPPEN IN OUR OWN FAMILY.
SO OUR KIDS WRITING ACADEMICALLY, SOCIALLY,
EMOTIONALLY, SPIRITUALLY. IT WASN’T THE DECISION WE SAID
WE’RE GOING TO HOMESCHOOL FOR X AMOUNT OF YEARS, IT KEPT ON
BUILDING AND KEPT ON GOING.>>MALIA: WHEN DID YOUR OLDER
CHILDREN TRANSITION IN TRADITIONAL SCHOOL?
COLLEGE?>>WE TOOK, WELL, TRADITIONAL
SCHOOL CAN TAKE MANY FORMS THESE DAYS.
IN SOME WAYS IT CAN, BUT INITIALLY, THEY DID SOME ON
LINE COURSEWORK THAT WAS WITH A LIVE INSTRUCTOR WHERE THEY
WOULD USE A CONFERENCING SOFTWARE AND LOG-IN.
INTERACT WITH THE STUDENTS IN THE CLASS.
THEY ALSO TOOK COURSES AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE THAT WE
LIVE NEAR. AND PARTICIPATE, AND ALSO
GAIN COLLEGE CREDIT ALONG THE WAY DOING THAT.
THOSE WERE THE TWO PROBABLY MOST WAYS THEY TRANSITIONED.
WE WERE ALSO HAVE BEEN A PART OF CO-OPS FOR YEARS.
WHERE DIFFERENT PARENTS WERE COOPERATIVELY TEACH
COURSEWORK, ACADEMIC AND EXTRACURRICULAR.
THEY HAD BEEN IN CLASSROOM SETTINGS AND CHURCH.
OUR OLDEST IS GRADUATING FROM COLLEGE.
SHE’LL BE COMING BACK THIS SUMMER AND STARTED MEDICAL
SCHOOL AT THE JOHN A. BURNS SCHOOL OF MEDICINE AT
HAWAI’I. EXCITED TO HAVE HER BACK HOME
AFTER HAVING HER GONE FOR FOUR YEARS.
OUR SON IS CURRENTLY AT FRESHMAN FINISHING FRESHMAN
YEAR, AWAY AT SCHOOL IN VIRGINIA AND THEN OUR
DAUGHTER IS AT HOME.>>MALIA: THEY GRADUATED FROM
HIGH SCHOOL IN THE HOMESCHOOL FORMAT AND WENT INTO COLLEGE.
YES.>>MALIA: WHAT WAS THAT
TRANSITION LIKE FOR THEM? WHAT WERE THE CHALLENGES?
>>THEY BOTH THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE TRANSITION
WAS A FANTASTIC ONE FOR THEM. THEY BOTH THINK THAT WAS A
GREAT WAY TO TRANSITION. THEY DIDN’T HAVE REALLY BIG
BUMPS.>>MALIA: NO DOWN SIDES FOR
YOUR CHILDREN AT ALL WITH HOMESCHOOLING?
>>I DON’T THINK SO. I DON’T THEY IF I’M THE ONE TO
ASK.>>MALIA: AS FAR AS YOU CAN
TELL. FOR YOU? WHAT WAS THE
TRANSITION LIKE? WAS IT SCARY THE FIRST DAY YOU WERE
WALKING INTO A SCHOOL?>>THE VERY FIRST DAY WHEN I
STARTED SCHOOL, I WAS A BIT NERVOUS LIKE I DIDN’T KNOW
WHAT TO EXPECT BECAUSE I HADN’T GONE TO SCHOOL BEFORE.
BUT THEN WHEN I GOT THERE, IT WAS LIKE, EVERYONE WAS
WELCOMING AND IT WAS REALLY NICE.
AFTER I GOT THERE, I WASN’T SCARED ANY MORE.
>>MALIA: DID YOU EVER AT ANY POINT WHILE YOU WERE BEING
HOMESCHOOLED THINK, I WISH I WERE AT SCHOOL LIKE THE KIDS
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR WAS THERE NEVER THAT SENSE FOR
YOU?>>IF GUAM, NOT REALLY BECAUSE
I WOULD, WHEN MY FRIENDS CAME HOME FROM SCHOOL, THEY WOULD
TELL ME ABOUT THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THE SCHOOL AND I
DIDN’T REALLY WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY WERE BAD.
BUT THERE WERE ALSO GOOD THINGS.
I THINK THAT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TIME THAT I WAS
HOMESCHOOLED, I DIDN’T REALLY FEEL THE NEED TO GO TO SCHOOL.
>>MALIA: WHAT STARTED TO CHANGE? AT WHAT POINT DID
YOU SORT OF START TO FEEL LIKE YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN
GOING?. WHEN WE MOVED BACK TO HAWAI’I,
I WAS IN SIXTH GRADE. AND I KIND OF SINCE WE MOVED
HERE, I DIDN’T HAVE THAT MANY FRIENDS.
I HAD FRIENDS BUT LIKE NOT A LOT.
AND SO I WANTED TO MAYBE TRY SOMETHING NEW.
SO I ASKED MY MOM, CAN I GO TO THIS SCHOOL? IT WAS A BRAND
NEW SCHOOL. AND IT HAD JUST OPENED UP.
AND IT WAS CHARTER SCHOOL. SO IT HAD A LOT OF THE LEARNING
WAS VERY COMPATIBLE TO WHAT YOU HAD DONE?
>>YES. SO I DECIDED TO GO THERE.
>>MALIA: HAD YOUR MOM BEEN YOUR MAIN TEACHER?.
YES. SHE WAS MY MAIN TEACHER.
BUT WE ALSO, I COULD, IF WE WERE LEARNING ABOUT SOMETHING
THAT I LIKED, SHE WOULD PUT ME IN A CLASS, MAYBE AT A
UNIVERSITY OR SOMETHING. SO THAT I COULD LEARN MORE
ABOUT IT. AND THEN FROM THERE, SHE WOULD
HELP ME THROUGH THE REST.>>MALIA: YOU WOULD BE WHAT AGE
IN THE UNIVERSITY CLASS? THAT MUST PRETTY AMAZING
EXPERIENCE.>>YEAH.
I WAS LIKE SEVEN,.>>STEVE: SHE WOULD TAKE YOU?
YOU’RE THE MAIN INSTRUCTOR FOR YOUR CHILDREN?
>>CORRECT.>>MALIA: SO WHAT IS THAT
SACRIFICE LIKE FOR YOU?>>I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
HARDEST THING THAT I FIND IS TRYING TO FIND TIME FOR ME.
BECAUSE NOW I SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH MY KIDS AND AT HOME.
THANKFULLY, I HAVE MANAGED TO CUT OUT TIME, MAKE IT HAPPEN.
ACTUALLY, LACY AND I WERE IN A WRITE-UP GROUP ON THE
WEEKENDS. FUN GROUP OF LADIES.
GET TOGETHER, DON’T NECESSARILY TALK ABOUT
HOMESCHOOLING OR KIDSING. THE KIND OF TALK ABOUT
WRITING. AND THINGS THAT WE ENJOY.
THAT’S REALLY THE MOST DIFFICULT THING.
>>MALIA: DOCTOR IT’S APPOINTMENTS, GETTING YOUR
HAIRCUTS, KIDS PARENTS MIGHT DO WHEN KIDS ARE AT SCHOOL.
>>MY HUSBAND, I GO AROUND HIS SCHEDULE.
I DON’T GO TO THE DOCTOR A WHOLE LOT.
I DON’T GET SICK. VERY FORTUNATE THAT WAY.
ANYTHING ELSE, I JUST WAIT AND GO AROUND MY HUSBAND’S
SCHEDULE.>>MALIA: INTERESTING.
WHAT ABOUT YOU? I MEAN, YOU HAVE A FOUR-YEAR OLD.
MOST MOMS SAY I’M NOT GOING TO GET MY HAIR DONE FOR A WHILE.
IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO FOR AS LONG AS YOUR CHILD
WANTS TO DO IT.>>ABSOLUTELY.
WHOLE STACK OF REASONS WHY, THE MAIN ONE IS THAT
HOMESCHOOLING AFFORDS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE TIME,
TIME TO EXPLORE, TIME TO VOLUNTEER IN OUR COMMUNITY,
TIME TO HIKE AND TRAVEL AND REALLY, INVEST IN FRIENDSHIPS
AND EXPERIENCES OUTSIDE OF ACADEMIC ENVIRONMENT.
ALL THOSE ARE LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE
HOMESCHOOL WORLD. YOU’LL HEAR JOKES WE’RE GOING
TO THE GROCERY STORE. IT’S A FIELD TRIP.
OR WHATEVER. THAT’S EXHAUSTING TO TRY TO
FIGHT THAT STEREOTYPE. NO, WE DON’T CONSIDER THAT A
FIELD TRIM. YOU COULD TURN IT INTO ONE IF
YOUR CHILD IS YOUNG ENOUGH, I SUPPOSE.
MORE THAN ANYTHING, I LOOK AT THE STATS.
FOR HOME EDUCATED CHILDREN, THEY CAN SPEND AN AVERAGE OF
TWO HOURS A DAY TO STAY ON-GRADE LEVEL WITH THEIR
PEER. THAT’S 2 HOURS.
THAT IS 3 TO 4 TIMES LESS TIME THAN SCHOOL CHILDREN SPEND IN
SCHOOL. AND SO THAT’S A LOT OF TIME
THAT WE CAN GO TO MUSEUMS OR DO THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND
HAVE OTHER LEARNING EXPERIENCES.
WE EMBRACE THAT.>>MALIA: AND FREE UP THAT
TIME.>>RIGHT.
SOMETIMES THAT JUST MEANS WE GET TO SOCIALIZE DURING THOSE
HOURS AND SO THAT’S A BIG THING.
EVERYBODY ALWAYS SAYS, OH, ARE THEY GOING TO GET
SOCIALIZED? I HAVE TO ACTUALLY STOP AND LIKE HALT
THE SOCIALIZATION ACTIVITIES BECAUSE I WILL OVERDO IT ON
THOSE. AND GO, OKAY, WE PROBABLY
SHOULD READ SOME BOOKS NOW.>>THAT IS I THINK A LINGERING
IDEA ABOUT HOMESCHOOLING WHEN, I MENTIONED TO PEOPLE,
THAT IS GOING TO BE THE TOPIC OF THIS WEEK’S SHOW.
MANY SAID, OH, HOW CAN KIDS WHO ARE HOMESCHOOLED EVER
LEARN TO DEAL WITH THE REAL WORLD? DISADVANTAGE.
THEY DON’T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH DIFFERENT
PERSONALITIES. VANESSA, DO YOU GET THAT FROM
PEOPLE?>>YES. SINCE MY KIDS ARE
LITTLE. NOT SO MUCH MORE THEY’RE OLDER
AND PEOPLE ARE DOING WELL. PEOPLE SEE THEM AND INTERACT
WITH THEM. THEY CAN TELL THEY’RE
SOCIALIZED. THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ACTIVE
IN ACTIVITIES AND DIFFERENT SPORTS AND SO CIVIL AIR PATROL
AND SCOUTS. INVOLVED WITH PEOPLE IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD. VOLUNTEERING BIG PART OF US.
OTHER MEANS FOREVER THE KIDS TO GET OUT AND MEET OTHER
PEOPLE AND KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
>>MALIA: I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IN ALL THINGS, IN ALL SCHOOLS,
ALL PARENTS, ALL FAMILYINGS, THERE ARE CASES WHERE PRANCE
HOMESCHOOLING MIGHT WOULD BE A PARENT THAT LOSES THEIR
TEMPER A LOT. THERE COULD BE A NEGATIVE
SETTING FOR THE CHILD IN THEIR NO OTHER ADULTS THAT ARE
SUPERVISING.>>THERE COULD BE I’M SURE.
NEVER MET ANYBODY PERSONALLY.>>MALIA: YOU DON’T SEE THAT.
>>I DON’T SEE IT. NO.
>>MALIA: LET’S GO — I’M SORRY.
>>I WANTED TO SAY, I PERSONALLY DON’T THINK THAT
HOMESCHOOL IS NECESSARILY FOR EVERYONE.
ND THAT’S OKAY. THERE ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE
WHO ARE EXCELLENT PARENTS AND THEY’RE GOING TO MAKE THE BEST
CHOICE FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND THEMSELVES.
I SAID THIS EARLIER. HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY IT
AGAIN. IF YOU NEED THAT TIME WHILE
YOU’RE CHILD IS IN SCHOOL, EVEN IF ALL YOU DO IS SIT THERE
AND STARE AT FACEBOOK DURING THAT TIME, WHEN YOUR CHILD
GETS HOME AND YOU CAN BE AN EXCELLENT PARENT AN THAT’S
WHAT YOU NEED TO DO THAT, THEN THAT’S FINE.
AND I WILL NOT EVER JUDGE ANYONE FOR THAT.
>>MALIA: GOOD POINT. LET’S GET TO SOME QUESTIONS.
THIS IS FROM DEAN IN HONOKAA. QUESTION.
IF PUBLIC SCHOOLS WERE TO BE PRIVATIZED, WOULD
HOMESCHOOLING FAMILIES CONSIDER SENDING STUDENTS TO
THEIR LOCAL PUBLIC SCHOOL? I GUESS WE ADDRESS THE FACT THAT
SOME PEOPLE MAKE THIS CHOICE BECAUSE THEY DON’T LIKE THE
SCHOOL THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO THEIR CHILDREN.
IF YOU HAD A SCHOOL THAT WAS PUBLIC, FREE, THAT MET YOUR
EDUCATIONAL CRITERIA, WOULD YOU BE SENDING YOUR CHILDREN
TO IT?>>I DON’T THINK I WOULD
BECAUSE HOMESCHOOLING HAS BEEN SO BENEFICIAL TO MY
FAMILY. WE’VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK AROUND
MY HUSBAND’S SCHEDULE, SPEND TIME TOGETHER.
EDUCATIONALLY, I THINK THEY’VE BEEN ABLE TO PURSUE
THINGS THEY REALLY ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT.
>>MALIA: NOT AN ISSUE OF THE SCHOOL VEIL ABILITY?
>>I AGREE WITH VANESSA. FOR US, PROBABLY WOULDN’T.
IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF EVERYONE FELT THAT THE SCHOOL
THAT THEIR CHILD COULD GO TO WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT SCHOOL
FOR THEM, BUT FOR US, WE JUST ENJOY THE INTERACTIONS,
CONVERSATIONS, OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE PRIMARY INFLUENCER,
TO DIALOGUE ABOUT BUMPS IN THE ROAD ALONG THE WAY.
I THINK ONE OF THE PRECIOUS THINGS ABOUT HOMESCHOOLING IS
THERE IS MANY IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE AND AS
WE ALL KNOW, TIMING IS SO IMPORTANT.
WHEN IS THE RIGHT TIME TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION? IF OUR
KIDS ARE GONE, FOR HOURS AND HOURS OUT OF THE DAY,
SOMETIMES IT’S HARD TO FIND THE TIME TO HAVE THOSE
CONVERSATIONS. WE HAVE LOTS OF OTHER
COMMITMENTS AND THINGS GOING ON IN LIFE.
SO FOR US, IT’S JUST BEEN WONDERFUL TO HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE TIME.>>MALIA: LET ME, LET ME GIVE
THIS QUESTION TO YOU. FROM KATHY IN HONOLULU.
HOW DOES THE PANEL FEEL ABOUT PARENTS SHOULD BE PARENTS,
TEACHERS SHOULD BE TEACHERS. WHATS THIS EVER HARD TO HAVE
A PARENT WHO’S THE TEACHER?>>SOMETIMES IT WAS.
AS I GOT OLDER. I WOULD TELL MY MOM LIKE, NO
I DON’T WANT TO DO THAT. SHE WOULD SAY, WELL, IF YOU
WERE AT SCHOOL, THE TEACHER, YOU WOULDN’T SAY THAT TO THE
TEACHER. AND THEN, AS I GOT OLDER, I DID
THAT TO MY MOM, BUT I THINK WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, I LOVE
HAVING HER AS A TEACHER.>>MALIA: SO IT WAS THAT I
RECALL PROGRESSION, IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME FOR YOU TO GO
AHEAD AND GO TO SCHOOL?>>YES? QUESTION FROM TOM IN
WAIKIKI. DOES HOME SCHOOLING RECEIVE
ANY FINANCIAL AID, TAX RELIEF OR ANY OTHER HELP FROM THE
STATE OF HAWAI’I?>>THERE IS A CHARTER SCHOOL
WHICH ALLOWS PARENTS TO SIGN UP.
MYRON B THOMPSON, RIGHT? AND THEY PROVIDE FUNDING.
BUT THEY ALSO REQUIRE THAT YOUR CHILD COME AND TAKE
CLASSES, I THINK IT’S TWICE A MONTH.
AND THEN THEY ALSO GET MONEY THEN FOR YOU TO BUY MATERIALS
AND THAT WORKS FOR A THE LOT OF PEOPLE.
IF YOUR GOAL IS TO AVOID THE TESTING, THAT’S NOT A GOOD
PROGRAM FOR YOU.>>MALIA: THAT HE WILL HAVE A
LOT OF THE TESTING?>>RIGHT. EXACTLY.
IT DOESN’T ALWAYS WORK WITH EVERY PARENT.
>>TECHNICALLY UNDER THE LAW, THAT’S NOT HOMESCHOOLING.
THAT ISN’T CONSIDERED HOMESCHOOLING.
IT’S A PART OF THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.
ALTHOUGH YOU CAN DO A LOT OF YOUR EDUCATION WITHIN YOUR
HOME, IT DOESN’T FALL UNDER THE SAME HOMESCHOOL LAW.
FOR THE STATE OF HAWAII.>>MALIA: WHILE WE’RE ON THIS,
PREPARING FOR THE SHOW, I WAS READING THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN HOMESCHOOLING AND IS IT CALLED UNSCHOOLING.
IS THIS SOMETHING YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR? WITH?
>>LITTLE BIT.>>MALIA: COULD YOU EXPLAIN
THOSE TERMS?>>SURE.
UNSCHOOLING, MORE YOU FOLLOW YOUR CHILDREN’S INTERESTS
ARE. SOMETIMES I MEAN, THERE IS NOT
NECESSARILY A LACK OF STRUCTURE A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE
IT AS BEING LACK OF STRUCTURE. HOMESCHOOLING FAMILIES I MET
HAVE ALL TYPICALLY VALUE THEIR OWN FORM OF STRUCTURE.
AND ULTIMATELY, I THINK THAT EVERYBODY ENDS UP BEING AN
ECLECTIC HOME SCHOOLER WE KIND OF TAKE BITS AND PIECE
FROM EACH THOUGHT AND SCHOOL OF THOUGHT ON HOMESCHOOLING.
AND THAT’S PRETTY MUCH ALL THAT I REALLY UNDERSTAND OF
UNSCHOOLING. I KNOW THAT THE FIRST YEAR
AFTER WE HOMESCHOOLED, TECHNICALLY UNSCHOOLED
BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO DECOMPRESS FROM OUR HORRIBLE
SITUATION, WE REALLY NEEDED TO BRING HIM HOME AND HEAL
HIM. UNINTENTIONALLY, I REALIZED
THAT WE NEEDED TO SPEND SOME TIME.
I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED AND AMAZED WHAT THEY DID ON THEIR
OWN. KIDS ACTUALLY, WHEN THEY WERE
DOING ACTUALLY NOTHING ERIC HAD NOTHING PLANNED, THEY
TOOK ASTRONOMY BOOK AND BUILT ENTIRE GET-UP OF POSTER
BOARDS OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM ON THEIR OWN.
THEY WERE SEVEN AND FIVE AT THE TIME.
SO I MEAN, I WAS JUST — I’M ALWAYS IMPRESSED BY WHAT
CHILDREN CAN DO ON THEIR OWN. THAT’S WHAT I UNDERSTAND OF
UNSCHOOLING.>>MALIA: DURING THAT
UNSCHOOLING PERIOD, DID YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT DOING THE
TESTING AT THE END OF THE YEAR?
>>I DIDN’T. WHEN MY KIDS WEREN’T OLD
ENOUGH AND IT WASN’T MY PRIORITY WHERE I WAS AT.
NOT EVERY STATE REQUIRES TESTING.
>>MALIA: THAT COULD CHANGE THINGS.
FROM SUSAN ON KAUAI. WHAT WOULD THEY RECOMMEND TO
OTHER PARENTS WHO HAVE HOMESCHOOLED CHILDREN
TRANSITIONING TO TRADITIONAL SCHOOL.
WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR FAMILIES THAT ARE GETTING
READY TO TRANSITION THEIR HOMESCHOOLED CHILDREN INTO A
TRADITIONAL SCHOOL? ANY ADVICE?
>>THE IT’S NOT THAT HARD. THE FIRST DAY, EVERYONE IS
ALWAYS SCARED BECAUSE THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.
BUT ONCE YOU GET THERE, AND LIKE YOU FIND A COUPLE OF
PEOPLE THAT YOU START BEING FRIENDS WITH, IT’S REALLY
EASY.>>MALIA: BETH MAYBE YOU CAN
TAKE THIS ONE FROM PATRICK IN AIEA.
HOW DID THE PANELISTS’ CHILDREN TRANSITION TO
TRADITIONAL SCHOOL? YOUR KIDS TRANSITIONED IN
COLLEGE. WASN’T A PROBLEM?
>>MALIA: DO YOU THINK HOME SCHOOLING HELPED THEM STAY
AWAY FROM NEGATIVE BEHAVIORS, DRUGS, ALCOHOL, SOME OF THE
KIDS THAT CAN HAPPEN IN HIGH SCHOOL AND BEYOND.
>>IT COULD HAVE HAD AN INFLUENCE.
MY DAUGHTER TOLD ME SHE FEELS LIKE, SUPER GREGARIOUS, VERY
OUTDOING, PEER ORIENTED, AND SHE FEELS LIKE BECAUSE SHE WAS
HOMESCHOOLED, SHE WAS IN A SETTING WHERE SHE GOT TO
BECOME MORE SURE OF HER OWN VALUES AND WHO SHE IS AS A
PERSON BEFORE BEING IN A SITUATION WITH A LOT OF HIGH
PRESSURE AND INTENSITY SOCIALLY.
AND SHE FEELS THAT THAT WAS POSITIVE FOR HER.
TOLD ME THAT NOW AT THIS POINT.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN TRUE THAT THAT WAS HELPFUL IN THAT WAY.
>>MALIA: FOR ARIEL, WHAT DOES SHE MISS ABOUT HOMESCHOOLING
FROM MARY IN KAIMUKI? WHAT DO YOU MISS?
>>I MISS SPENDING TIME WITH MAUI MOM, GETTING LIKE SHE
LEARNS ALONG WITH ME. DO STUFF AND WE WOULD LEARN
TOGETHER. AND I MISS ALL OF THE FIELD
TRIPS WE GOT TO TAKE. AND LIKE WE WOULD LEARN, WE
WOULD LEARN ABOUT SOMETHING AND THEN WE WOULD DO AN
ACTIVITY ALONG WITH IT. SO LIKE WE WENT TO NEW YORK AND
WE LEARNED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT SEASONS AND WE GOT
TO EXPERIENCE FALL AND WINTER.
SO WE GOT TO LEARN ABOUT IT, WHILE WE WERE IN THE SEASONS.
>>MALIA: WHICH WAS MEMORABLE?>>YES.
>>MALIA: ALL RIGHT. FROM PAM IN KALIHI.
DOES ANYONE ON THE PANEL KNOW THE STATISTICS KNOW HOW
HOMESCHOOLED CHILDREN FARE IN THE LONG TERM? LACY?
>>OKAY, THIS ACTUALLY IS COMING FROM 2015 GRADUATES
SAT DATA. SO THIS IS FROM THE S.A.T.
COLLEGE AND CAREER READINESS BENCHMARK WHICH IS STANDARD
COMBINED SCORE OF 1550 ON THE THREE S.A.T. TESTS.
THAT’S CRITICAL READING, WRITING AND MATHEMATICS.
THIS IS ASSOCIATED WITH SUCCESS IN COLLEGE.
1550 MEANS YOU’RE GOING TO REALLY REALLY WELL IN
COLLEGE. SO THEY, OF COURSE, LOOKED AT
COLLEGE BOUND SENIORS IN INDEPENDENT SCHOOLS, PRIVATE
SCHOOLS, RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS, AND OF COURSE HOME SCHOOLERS
AND THEY COMPARED HOW THEY FARED.
SO THE COMBINED AVERAGE S.A.T. SCORE FOR
HOMESCHOOLERS AND INDEPENDENT SCHOOLERS, THAT
WOULD BE YOUR SUPER PRIVATE CHARTER SCHOOL AND YOUR
NONRELIGIOUS PRIVATE SCHOOLS, THEY SCORED 99
POINTS ABOVE THE BENCHMARK. SO THAT’S AN AVERAGE OF 1649.
WHILE THE AVERAGE FOR RELIGIOUS SCHOOL STUDENTS
WITH 1596. THAT’S 46 POINTS ABOVE THE
BENCHMARK. P BE LICK SCHOOLS STUDENTS
SCORED 1462 WHICH WAS 88 POINTS SHY OF THE STANDARD.
ONE BIG FACTOR.>>MALIA: HIGHER.
MUCH HIGHER. CONSIDERABLY.
>>MALIA: TONIGHT WE’RE EXAMINING HOMESCHOOLING IN
HAWAI’I. WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM
YOU. CALL 973-1000 OR
800-238-4847 IF YOU’RE CALLING FROM A NEIGHBOR
ISLAND. BETH, THIS QUESTION IS FOR
YOU. FROM TERRY IN HILO.
HOW DOES BETH FEEL ABOUT THE STEREOTYPES OF, QUOTE,
UNQUOTE, CHRISTIAN HOME SCHOOLERS OR TEACHING
FANATICAL BELIEFS? DO YOU ENCOUNTER PEOPLE WHO HAVE A
CERTAIN STEREOTYPE? YOU WERE SAYING RELIGION WAS
NOT A REALLY PREDOMINANT PART OF THIS DECISION FOR YOU.
DO YOU STILL RUN INTO THAT STEREOTYPE OR HAVE ANY
THOUGHTS ON THAT?>>I HAVE NOT REALLY RUN INTO
THAT STEREOTYPE. I THINK AS, I DON’T WEAR THE
FACT THAT I HOMESCHOOL ON MY SLEEVE.
AND PEOPLE GET TO KNOW ME, THEY KNOW THAT MY FAITH IS,
VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. BUT THAT I’M INTERESTED IN A
VARIETY OF THINGS AND THAT OUR FAMILY, THEY ENJOY OUR KID,
THEY ENJOY OUR FAMILY, SO IT’S NOT, ALTHOUGH FAITH IS REALLY
IMPORTANT TO US, WE’VE NEVER FELT, I THINK, REALLY IMPOSED
UPON IN THAT WAY. OR STEREOTYPE.
>>MALIA: VANESSA, WE WERE SPEAKING A LITTLE BIT BEFORE
THE SHOW AND YOU WERE SAYING YOU DID RUN INTO PEOPLE WHO
DEFINITELY HAVE SORT OF THEIR OPINION.
WHEN YOU RUN INTO SOMEONE WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE A POSITIVE
OPINION ABOUT YOUR CHOICE, WHAT DO YOU DO?
>>I TRY TO ACCENTUATE THE POSITIVE.
DON’T TAKE IT PERSONALLY. IT’S HARD.
ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY’RE LITTLE AND KIND OF NEW TO IT.
NOT REALLY SURE, I ACCENTUATE THE POSITIVE.
ANSWER QUESTIONS.>>I DON’T AUTOMATICALLY TRY
TO DEFEND. DEFEND MYSELF.
I DON’T FEEL LIKE I NEED TO.>>MALIA: WHAT KIND OF
QUESTIONS DO YOU GET?>>ALWAYS SOCIALIZATION.
ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS. ACADEMIC QUESTIONS UP.
HOW ARE YOU ABLE TO TEACH YOUR KIDS? WHY DO YOU THINK YOU
SHOULD BE ABLE TO TEACH YOUR KIDS? YOU’RE NOT A CERTIFIED
TEACHER. THAT COMES UP QUITE A BIT.
MY ANSWER TO THAT I WENT TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL.
IF I AM NOT QUALIFIED TO TEACH MY KIDS THE BASICS WHAT MAKES
ME THINK MY KIDS SHOULD BE IN THAT SITUATION.
TWO, I’M NOT TEACHING 30 KIDS. I DON’T NEED TO WRANGLE A
GROUP OF KIDS. BASIC, READING WRITING
ARITHMETIC IS PRETTY SIMPLE. EVERYTHING WE CAN’T HANDLE,
THERE’S RESOURCES.>>MALIA: HAVE YOU EVER HAD A
DAY WHERE YOU THOUGHT I’M IN OVER MY HEAD?
>>OH, YEAH. I’VE HAD DAYS WHERE I DOUBTED
WHAT I’M DOING. LIKE ANY PARENT IN ANY
SITUATION, WE ALL HAVE OUR DOUBTS.
I DON’T REALLY COME BACK TO BIG PICTURE.
I REALLY ENJOY THE TIME WITH OUR KIDS AND HUSBAND AND
FAMILY IS CLOSE DESPITE MOVING ALL THE TIME AND CRAZY
SCHEDULE. WE JUST BEEN ABLE TO LEARN.
I’VE LEARNED SO MUCH WITH MY KIDS.
LIKE YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT YOUR MOM LEARNING WITH YOU.
I HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH. AND I JUST REALLY, REALLY
ENJOY IT. I THINK THAT IT’S BEEN SUCH A
GREAT EXPERIENCE WATCHING THEM GROW EVERY STEP OF THE
WAY.>>MALIA: YOU MENTIONED BEING
QUALIFIED TO TEACH. WHO IS CONSIDERED QUALIFIED
TO TEACH HOME SCHOOLED CHILDREN? THE PARENTS?
>>MALIA: WHATEVER THE PARENTS LEVEL OF EDUCATION? THERE’S
NO QUESTION AS TO, THERE’S NO QUALIFICATION IN HAWAI’I HOME
SCHOOL LAW. ARE THERE IN OTHER STATES DO
YOU KNOW?>>I’M NOT SURE.
>>MALIA: IT WAS INTERESTING TO ME READING UP, APPARENTLY,
ABOUT 30 COUNTRIES BAN HOMESCHOOLING.
ABSOLUTELY ILLEGAL. AND PARENTS CAN ACTUALLY BE
ARRESTED. MORE THAN THAT, HAVE VERY,
VERY STRICT CRITERIA. YOU’VE GOT TO PROVE THAT YOUR
CHILD WOULD BE MEDICALLY THREATENED GOING TO SCHOOL.
THE CHOICE OF HOMESCHOOL IS NOT REALLY OFFERED IN MANY
AREAS OF THE WORLD.>>I’M GRATEFUL WE HAVE THE
CHOICE HERE.>>MALIA: ONE OF THE QUESTIONS
FROM LLOYD IN WAIALAE. WHAT IS THE USUAL ATTITUDE OF
REGULAR PUBLIC SCHOOLTEACHERS TO
HOMESCHOOLING? HAVE YOU ANY OF YOU EVER HAD A CONVERSATION
WITH TEACHER, PUBLIC OR OTHERWISE?
>>WE HAVE FRIENDS WHO ARE PUBLIC SCHOOLTEACHERS.
THEY’RE SO BRAVE. AND REMARKABLE PEOPLE.
AND INSPIRING TO ME AND I GET A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM
THEM. I’M NOT AFRAID TO ASK THEM
QUESTIONS. I LOVE THEM VERY FORTUNATE
THAT WAY. THEY’RE INCREDIBLY
SUPPORTIVE. THEY DEFINITELY ARE THE FIRST TO EXPRESS THE
PROBLEMS FLAWS AND ONE OF THE BIG ONES IS THE TIMES.
SO I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP. IT’S NEVER TOO LATE TO START
HOME SCHOOLING WITH YOUR CHILD.
IT’S ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT, TEENAGE YEARS, BECAUSE DURING
PUBERTY, MELATONIN, THAT’S THE HORMONE THAT HELPS
REGULATE OUR SLEEP. IT SHIFTS BY TWO HOURS DURING
THAT TIME MEANING THAT IT’S NOT UNTIL 11:00 P.M. THAT
YOUR TEENAGER IS ACTUALLY TIRED AND THEN THEY DON’T STOP
PRODUCING THAT MELATONIN USUALLY AROUND 8:00 IN THE
MORNING. AVERAGE HIGH SCHOOL STARTS
7:20. CHILDREN ARE AWAKE 5:00, 6:00
A.M. TO GET TO SCHOOL. THEY’RE EXHAUSTED.
NOT GETTING ENOUGH SLEEP. BACKED UP BY NUMEROUS
STUDIES. THOSE STUDIES SHOW THEY’RE
NOT PERFORMING AT AS WELL ACADEMICALLY.
USING MORE RECREATIONAL DRUGS AND ALCOHOL AND THEY’RE
HAVING CAR ACCIDENTS BECAUSE THEY’RE SLEEP DEPRIVED.
THIS IS A BIG DEAL. AND SO IT’S NOT TOO LATE.
>>MALIA: HAVE YOU FOUND, HAVING TO BE ON A SCHEDULE,
DIFFICULT AT ALL? HAS THAT BEEN A DOWN SIDE?.
YES. SOMETIMES. SCHOOL STARTS AT 8:15.
WE LIVE KIND OF CLOSE TO THERE.
SO I CAN GET UP AROUND 7:00 AND THEN BE ABLE TO GET TO SCHOOL
BY 8:15. SO IT HASN’T BEEN THAT BIG OF
A CHANGE. BUT GETTING UP AT THE SAME
TIME EVERY SINGLE MORNING IS SOMETIMES HARD.
>>MALIA: WHAT SORT OF QUESTIONS DO YOU GET ABOUT
YOUR HOMESCHOOL EXPERIENCE FROM ADULTS OR CLASSMATES?
>>MY FRIENDS WHO THEY’RE FRIENDS WITH, THAT I HAVE
FRIENDS, AND YEAH. I HAD SO MANY FRIENDS.
>>MALIA: SO IF THERE WAS A DOWN SIDE AT ALL, I ANOTHER
YOUR EXPERIENCE WAS GOOD. IF THERE WAS A DOWN SIDE, IF
YOU HAD TO NAME A DOWN SIDE, WAS THERE ANY OR WAS IT
COMPLETELY 100% POSITIVE?>>I THINK THE ONLY DOWN SIDE
WAS THAT I GOT ONE TEACHER. AND I DIDN’T GET TO LEARN
ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE’S TEACHING STYLES.
>>MALIA: WAS THAT HARD TO TRANSITION WHEN YOU GOT TO
SCHOOL AND YOU HAD ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT VOICES?
>>YEAH. THE FIRST SCHOOL THAT I WENT
TO, ALL MY TEACHERS WERE REALLY NICE TO ME AND LIKE SO
MANY TEACHERS, BUT THEY ALL KIND OF TAUGHT THE SAME AT
THIS SCHOOL. SO IT WAS EASIER FOR ME.
WHEN I WENT TO MIDPAC, IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFICULT BUT I’M
GETTING USED TO IT.>>MALIA: ALL RIGHT.
FROM DEANNA IN AINA HAINA. IS HOME SCHOOLING
PREDOMINANTLY MORE AFFLUENT FAMILIES WHERE THE MOTHER
DOES NOT HAVE TO WORK? ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT?
>>IT’S QUITE POSSIBLE. I THINK MOST OF MY FRIENDS DO
STAY HOME. I DO.
WE STAY HOME. DEFINITELY EASIER THAT WAY.
>>MALIA: DON’T HAVE TO GIVE UP THE INCOME TO QUIT THE JOB TO
DO IT. RIGHT.
ACTUALLY WORK FULL-TIME AT A GAS STATION BECAUSE THEY NEED
A LITTLE EXTRA INCOME. I WOULD WORK AT NIGHT AND COME
HOME. IT WASN’T EXACTLY THE EASIEST
THING, BUT HOMESCHOOLING WAS AS MUCH A PRIORITY TO US, WE
WERE NOT ABOUT TO GIVE IT UP.>>MALIA: YOU WERE DO EVENING
WORK SO THAT YOU COULD TO IT?>>MY MOM USED TO DO IT.
>>SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED FROM HOME.
PEOPLE CAN MAKE MONEY BLOGGING AND TALKING ABOUT
THAT. AND SO I MEAN, THERE’S SO MANY
DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THE MOM CAN STILL EARN INCOME IF
NECESSARY.>>MALIA: HERE’S A QUESTION
FROM SAN DAY IN HONOLULU. WHAT TYPES OF TRANSCRIPTS ARE
USED BY HOMESCHOOLING STUDENTS TO APPLY FOR COLLEGE
PROGRAMS?>>VARIETY OF TRANSCRIPT
PROGRAMS THAT YOU CAN PURCHASE TO ENTER THE DATA.
IN HAWAI’I, THERE IS CHRISTIAN EDUCATION
INSTITUTE WHICH YOU CAN WORK WITH FOR A FEE TO HELP YOU
COMPILE TRANSCRIPTS AND DO YOUR RECORDKEEPING.
I MADE ONE ON EXCEL AND THAT WORKED OUT JUST FINE.
SO THERE IS REALLY SEVERAL OPTIONS AND YOU CAN GOOGLE
THEM LEARNING TO USE EXCEL.>>MALIA: YOU DIDN’T FIND THE
COLLEGE APPLICATION PROCESS WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF HIGH
SCHOOL TO BE INTIMIDATING.>>IT’S DEFINITELY
INTIMIDATING. DO YOUR RESEARCH EARLIER.
IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT SCHOOL YOUR CHILD IS
INTERESTED IN, CONTACT THEM AND FIND OUT WHAT THE
HOMESCHOOLING REQUIREMENTS ARE.
SOME SCHOOLS REQUIRE, FOR EXAMPLE, S.A.T. SUBJECT TEST
FOR HOMESCHOOLING. MAY REQUIRE GREATER NUMBER OF
LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATION FROM DIFFERENT KINDS OF
PEOPLE. HOMESCHOOLING IS GETTING MORE
AND MORE ACCEPTED IN THE COLLEGE AREA.
COLLEGE AARENA. BUT SCHOOLS STILL HAVE
SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS THAT GENERALLY, IF YOU DO SOME
PLANNING AHEAD, THINK ABOUT IT AHEAD, TAKE THAT S.A.T.
SUBJECT TEST RIGHT AFTER YOUR CHILD TAKES THE COURSE
INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR 3 YEARS LATER WHEN THEY HAVE TO REVIEW
IT ALL, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN DEFINITELY PULL IT OFF.
>>MALIA: TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA WORK?.
AND YOU HAVE IS TO BE HON IT WITH YOUR RECORDKEEPING.
YOU WANT TO KEEPING A LOG OF ALL THE VOLUNTEER
ACTIVITIES,S ANY JOBS THAT THEY HAVE, ANY
EXTRACURRICULARS, PEOPLE FOR EXAMPLE OUR CHILDREN, I
ASKED, THEY ASKED PROFESSORS TO WRITE LETTERS OF
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE WHEN THEY
WERE A JUNIOR EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN’T GOING NEED IT UNTIL
THEY WERE A SENIOR.>>MALIA: LINE UP THE DOCS.
>>EXACT I WILL.>>MALIA: ANTICIPATION.
LET ME GIVE THIS QUESTION TO YOU FROM GAYLE IN KANEOHE.
ARE BOYS AEASIER TO HOMESCHOOL THAN GIRLS? AS A
MOTHER OF BOYS, USUALLY, YOU WOULD THINK THE OPPOSITE.
>>DON’T KNOW. I HOMESCHOOL GIRLS.
MY BOYS DEFINITELY VERY ACTIVE.
ONE OF THE BENEFITS IS THE FACT THAT DURING THE DAY, THEY
CAN FOCUS ON SCHOOLWORK AND IF THEY REALLY NEED TO, I CAN
JUST SEND THEM OUTSIDE. HALF AN HOUR.
SO THEN THEY CAN COME BACK IN AND REFOCUS.
THAT’S DEFINITELY ONE OF THE BENEFITS.
I LOVE HOMESCHOOLING BOYS. YOUNGEST LEARNED SPELLING
WORDS SITTING IN CIRCLES WHEN HE WAS ABOUT SIX.
>>MALIA: ONE OF THE CRITICISMS OF TRADITIONAL
SCHOOLS IT IS HARD FOR A BOYS TO SET AT A DESK FOR THAT LONG.
DID YOU LIKE BEING ABLE TO RUN AROUND WHEN YOU WANTED TO.
>>WE HAD A LITTLE TOY YOU COULD SPIN AROUND.
WHEN MY MOM WAS TALKING, I WOULD BE SPINNING AROUND ON IT
AFTER STANDING UP, JUMPING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
>>MALIA: WHEN YOU GOT INTO A TRADITIONAL SCHOOL, WERE
THERE ANY THINGS THAT YOU WERE SORT OF THINKING, WHAT IS THAT
OR WHAT DO THEY MEAN OR SORT OF THE LANGUAGE OF SCHOOL AND
THE WAY PAT EARN OF THE DAY?>>YES.
THEY HAD SUCH SET COURSE THAT YOU WOULDN’T WANT TO LEARN
SOMETHING ELSE. NO, YOU GOT TO STAY ON THERE.
STAY ON THE PATH.>>MALIA: WAS THAT
FRUSTRATING?, SOMETIMES IT WAS.
BUT SOMETIMES IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, I CAN DO THAT.
>>MALIA: ALL RIGHT. FROM EMILY.
CAN SOMEONE COMMENT ON THE PRIVILEGE INHERENT IN A
FAMILY THAT HAS THE TIME/RESOURCES TO HOME SCHOOL
THEIR CHILD? FOR MANY FAMILIES ESPECIALLY IN
HAWAI’I, WITH SUCH A HIGH COST OF LIVING, BEING ABLE TO HOME
SCHOOL YOUR CHILD FULL-TIME IN LIEU HAVING A JOB IS NOT AN
OPTION FOR MOST. WE DID TOUCH ON THIS EARLIER.
YOU WERE SAYING THAT YOU ACTUALLY WORKED CAN AT GAS
STATION TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE. SOME FAMILIES THIS SIMPLY
MIGHT NOT BE AN OPTION.>>EXACTLY.
MIGHT NOT BE AN OPTION. NOT A BIG DEAL.
NOT A PROBLEM. EVERYBODY HAS TO DO WHAT’S
RIGHT FOR THEIR FAMILY. IF YOU HOMESCHOOL, IT’S GOING
TO PUT PRESSURE ON YOUR FAMILY THAT WOULD CAUSE DAMAGE TO
YOU, THAT’S NOT WORTH IT. GOT TO EVALUATE YOUR
SITUATION.>>I HAVE SOME STATS IF YOU
WOULD LIKE SOME STATS. MY KID’S HOMEWORK.
STATISTICALLY, HOMESCHOOLING SUCCEEDED NO MATTER HOW MUCH
MONEY WAS SPENT ON THEIR EDUCATION.
SO PARENTS WHO SPEND UNDER $600 PER STUDENT, THIS IS IN
A IT YEAR, THEY SCORED IN THE 86% I’LL.
AND PARENTS WHO SPENT $600 OR MORE ON EACH STUDENT SCORED IN
THE 89TH PERCENTILE. SO STILL GREAT.
AND AGAIN, 2 HOURS A DAY AND THEY’RE ON PAR WITH THEIR
PEERS.>>THERE ARE A LOT OF FREE HOME
SCHOOLING RESOURCES OUT THERE.
>>I HAVE RIGHT HERE. STARTED A CO-OP.
TOTALLY FREE. DISCOUNT IT’S FOR ANY OF THE
FIELD TRIPS WE GO ON. MUSEUMS ARE DISCOUNTED RATE
FOR US BECAUSE WE’RE A GROUP. IT’S CHEAPER THAN IF YOU JUST
TOOK YOUR CHILD. AND THEN A LOT OF ACTIVITIES
ARE FREE AND WE, I SPEND A LOT OF HOURS PUTTING TOGETHER
PUBLICATIONS, SHOWING WHAT ALL WE DO DURING EACH SESSION
AND OUR NEWSLETTER EVERY MONTH HAS GREAT DETAILS TO
WHAT WE DID. SO YOU CAN KEEP A RECORD OF
YOUR CHILD’S PROGRESS AND WHAT THEY’VE DONE.
SO LATER, WHEN YOU HAVE TO COMPILE THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU
HAVE A RECORD.>>THAT IS A QUESTION WE GOT
FROM CHRISTINA IN AIEA. HOW CAN I GET MORE INFORMATION
ON HOMESCHOOLING? WHERE DO YOU START IN IF YOU HAD TO
CHOOSE ONE WEBSITE MAYBE TO GO TO, JUST TO START TO GET THE
LAY OF THE LAND, ANY SUGGESTIONS?
>>OAHU HOME SCHOOL MOMS. FANTASTIC WEBSITE.
REALLY GOOD WEBSITE. LAURA’S ONE WHO RUNS IT, GET
TOGETHER A LOT OF, PUTS A LOT OF TIME INTO IT.
>>ANOTHER ONE IS THE HOME SCHOOL LEGAL DEFENSE
ASSOCIATION. THEY HAVE JUST A LOT OF
INFORMATION ON ALL DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS.
AND LIKE STARTING FROM THE BEGINNING OR FROM THE IN
BETWEEN LIKE SIXTH GRADER STARTING FROM THAT, FOR EVERY
AGE.>>MALIA: FROM MICHAEL IN
MAKIKI. ARE THERE ANY QUALITY
STANDARDS SUCH THAT SOME PARENTS ARE TOLD THAT THEY ARE
NOT QUALIFIED TO CONDUCT THE HOMESCHOOL AND THE CHILD MUST
ATTEND A CLASSROOM? WE DID TOUCH ON THIS EARLIER.
THERE IS NO RULE AS TO WHAT SORT OF EDUCATION OR
BACKGROUND THE PARENT. WHAT IF THINGS ARE NOT GOING
WELL IN THE HOME? WHO IS THERE FOR THE CHILD TO
INTERCEDE?>>YOU TO HAVE TO SUBMIT THAT
TEST RESULTS. THEY CAN INTERSEED AT A
CERTAIN POINT.>>IF THERE’S SEVERAL YEARS OF
NOT SHOWING ACADEMIC PROCESS, THEY MAY STEP IN AT THAT
POINT. THIS IS FROM TAMMI IN HAWAII
KAI. DO THE PARENTS EVER FEEL
THERE’S TOO MUCH TOGETHERNESS WHEN THEY’RE WITH THEIR
CHILDREN SO MUCH? ANY THOUGHTS?
>>I DON’T — I HAVE NEVER ACTUALLY COME ACROSS THAT
HONESTLY. I REALLY, REALLY ENJOY MY KIDS
AND WHO THEY’RE BECOMING. DON’T NOTICE TOO MUCH OF IT.
>>MALIA: WAS THAT EVER OBVIOUSLY, YOU LOVED YOUR
EXPERIENCE AND YOU LOVE YOUR MOM.
AS YOU GREW UP, DID YOU HAVE A VERY NATURAL INCLINATION,
WHICH MANY CHILDREN HAVE, OF NEEDING MORE TIME AND MORE
SPACE?>>I DON’T THINK SO.
BECAUSE EVERY — WHEN I WAS HOMESCHOOLED, ALMOST EVERY
DAY, AFTER WE WERE DONE, I WOULD GO OUTSIDE AND PLAY WITH
MY FRIENDS. I WOULD SPEND HALF-DAY WITH MY
MOM AND SPEND LIKE FOURTH OF THE DAY WITH MY FRIENDS.
SO I GOT SOME TIME ALONE. BUT IT WAS GOOD.
>>MALIA: WHAT DID YOU DO TO ENSURE THAT YOUR CHILDREN HAD
ENOUGH FRIENDS, ENOUGH SOCIALIZATION, HAD THAT TIME?
RELIED ON YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THINGS.
NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN BIG, LET THE KIDS GO OUT AND
PLAY, MEET THE KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ALWAYS-DONE THAT. VERY SOCIAL AND NATURALLY
DRAWN, KIDS ARE NATURALLY DRAWN TO THEM.
ALWAYS PARTICIPATED ACTIVELY IN SPORTS, OR SCOUTS.
HIGH SON IS INVOLVED IN CIVIL AIR PATROL.
TAUGHT HIM LEADERSHIP SKILLS. ALWAYS INTERACTED IN
HOMESCHOOL GROUPS. I STARTED A GROUP COUPLE YEARS
AGO. FAMILIES ARE AMAZING.
WE GET TOGETHER SOCIALLY. PARENTS HANG OUT AND PLAY.
KIDS HANG OUT AND PLAY. WORKED OUT.
>>MALIA: WHAT DID YOU DO TO MAKE SURE?
>>SIMILARLY, CO-OP, LOTS OF SPORTS, SPEECH AND DEBATE,
MANY DIFFERENT OUTSIDE ACTIVITIES, RELATED THINGS.
>>MALIA: WHAT WAS THE SPEECH AND DEBATE THROUGH? WHAT
ORGANIZATION?>>SPEECH AND DEBATE WAS
THROUGH A HOMESCHOOL LEAGUE ON THE ISLAND.
AND OUR KIDS HAVE ALL PARTICIPATED IN THAT.
PROVIDES A REALLY WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN A
VARIETY OF SPEAKING THINGS, PERSUASIVE SPEAKING,
DRAMATIC INTERPRETATION AND CONCEPT OF DEBATE, TEEN
POLICY FOR DEBATE. DEBATE SERIOUS INTERNATIONAL
QUESTIONS AND THEY WOULD, IF THEY QUALIFIED, THEY TRAVELED
TO THE MAINLAND WHICH WE DID. AND COMPETED AGAINST HUNDREDS
OF OTHER STUDENTS.>>MALIA: LET ME ASK THIS
QUESTION OF YOU AS WELL. SINCE YOU HAVE THE CHILDREN
THIS AGE. JESSE FROM HAWAII KAI ASKED,
DO ANY HOME SCHOOLERS RECEIVE ANY KIND OF SCHOLARSHIPS TO
ATTEND COLLEGE?>>YES, THEY DO.
MANY HOMESCHOOL HAVE. OUR CHILDREN QUALIFIED AT
NATIONAL MERIT FINALISTS AND GOT EXCELLENT SCHOLARSHIPS
THAT HAVE HELPED WITH UNDERGRAD.
IT’S DEFINITELY POSSIBLE TO DO THAT ON THE ACADEMIC FRONT
AS A HOMESCHOOLER.>>MALIA: FROM MICHAEL.
IS THE PERCENTAGE OF HOMESCHOOLING PARENTS
PREDOMINANTLY MOTHERS? IF SO, WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?
>>I THINK MAJORITY ARE MOTHERS.
WE DO HAVE SEVERAL FATHERS LIKE IN MY GROUP WHO ALSO ARE
THE PRIMARY EDUCATOR. SOME THAT ARE BALANCED.
MOM AND DAD BOTH KIND OF TAKE TURNS.
FAMILIES.>>MALIA: IS THAT WHERE THE
MOTHER IS WORKING FULL-TIME AND THE FATHER TAKES ON THE
TEACHING?>>HONESTLY, I DON’T KNOW.
HONESTLY. I DON’T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
IT COULD BE.>>MALIA: NEXT QUESTION.
IS THE FINANCIAL COMMITMENT MATERIALS, ET CETERA? YOU
TOUCHED ON THIS IN TERMS OF IT’S NOT NECESSARILY HOW MUCH
MONEY YOU SPEND ON PROGRAM OR MATERIALS.
FOR SOMEONE WHO IS THINKING ABOUT DOING THIS WHERE MONEY
IS A REAL ESCHEW, ANY SUGGESTIONS ON THE BEST MOST
COST-EFFECTIVE PROGRAM OR MATERIALS?.
SURE. I THINK THAT FIRST AND
FOREMOST, WE HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA AT OUR DISPOSAL.
AND THAT’S A WONDERFUL WAY TO CONNECT WITH OTHER HOME
SCHOOLING FAMILIES. YOU CAN SHARE MATERIALS.
CAN JOIN A CO-OP LIKE OURS THAT HAS A LENDING LIBRARY.
YOU CAN ALSO USE OTHER THINGS LIKE YOUTUBE AND LOCAL
LIBRARIES AS RESOURCES. KAAN ACADEMY.
TONS OF FREE CURRICULUM ON LINE.
YOU CAN TAKE FREE COLLEGE COURSES ON LINE, FROM
FANTASTIC UNIVERSITIES ALL OVER THE WORLD.
YOU CAN GO TO OXFORD AROUND TAKE OXFORD COURSES ON LINE
AND ALL OF MIT IS ON LINE.>>MALIA: SOUND LIKE YOUR MOM
TOOK ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THE COLLEGE CLASSES.
>>YES. IN GUAM, WE HAD A UNIVERSITY
THERE AND SO THERE WAS ONE THING WE WERE LEARNING ABOUT
INSECTS AND I REALLY WANTED TO LEARN MORE.
SO SHE PUT ME IN A CLASS THAT WAS ALL ABOUT INSECTS AND WHAT
THEY DO AND SO WE GOT P HAD A LITTLE INSECT KIT.
>>MALIA: ALSO USED CURRICULUM FAIRS, CHRISTIAN HOME
SCHOOLERS ON OAHU. INEXPENSIVE.
>>MALIA: DO STUDENTS MISS OUT ON PROMS,S SPORTS, SOCIAL
ACTIVITIES. SEVERAL PROM TYPE EVENTS THAT
HAPPEN ON THE ISLAND. THAT HAVE HAPPENED EVERY
SPRING THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO DIFFERENT HOMESCHOOLING GROUPS PUT THOSE TOGETHER.
HOMESCHOOLERS OF OLDER CHILDREN ON OAHU IS A FACEBOOK
GROUP THAT IS HAVING A BANQUET AND DANCE SHORTLY AND HYPE,
HOME SCHOOLING YOUTH AND PARENTS, IS HAVING ONE IN MAY.
MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR IN YOUR CO-OP SETTING, YOU CAN
PUT TOGETHER A GRADUATION. OUR CHURCH DOES A
BACCALAUREATE. NOT JUST FOR HOMESCHOOLERS.
IT’S FOR EVERYBODY. WE KIND OF USE THAT AS OUR
KIDS’ GRADUATION. SO MANY FAMILY AND FRIENDS
INVITED TO THAT. WE HAVE A BIG PARTY.
>>MALIA: CHRISTIAN EDUCATION INSTITUTE HOSTS A GRADUATION
CEREMONY EACH YEAR.>>CURRENTLY, SEVERAL GROUPS.
GRADUATION PLANNING GOING ON FOR END OF THIS YEAR.
DEFINITELY GRADUATION. HOKO IS GREAT FOR SOCIAL
ACTIVITIES. PUT ON A DANCE EVERY YEAR.
ALL SORTS OF FIELD TRIPS. THEY ARE AMAZING FOR THE OLDER
KIDS.>>MALIA: WHAT GRADE LEVEL
WILL THE ELEMENTARY HOME SCHOOL CHILD BE PLACED AFTER
HOMESCHOOL IS ENDED? CAN THE PARENT CHALLENGE GRADE LEVEL
OF REENROLLED CHILD. YOU HAVEN’T DONE THIS.
YOU HAVE GONE INTO SCHOOL OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS SMOOTH
TRANSITION FOR YOU. ARE ANY OF YOU AWARE OF
PERHAPS THROUGH YOUR HOMESCHOOLING FRIENDS OF ANY
CHALLENGES IN TERMS OF GRADE LEVELS?
>>NOT THAT I’M A AWARE OF. EVERYTHING THAT I’VE HEARD
FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRANSITIONED INTO REGULAR
SCHOOL, YOU ARE ABLE TO TEST UP A LEVEL IF YOU FEEL IT
NECESSARY OR YOUR KIDS CAN STAY AT GRADE LEVEL.
>>MALIA: ARE ANY OF THE HOME SCHOOLING FAMILIES INVOLVED
IN VOLUNTEERING? DON IN KAILUA.
WAS VOLUNTEERING A COMPONENT.>>VOLUNTEER SOMETHING A
COMPONENT. WHEN OUR GROUP STARTED, WE
WOULD GET TOGETHER AND CLEAN UP BEACHES.
MY SON AND ARE LOOKING TO VOLUNTEER AT THE HUMANE
SOCIETY. THEY HAVE A PROGRAM FOR
YOUNGER KIDS AND PARENTS DO IT TOGETHER.
WE LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES CONSTANTLY TO VOLUNTEER.
>>MALIA: NODDING YOUR HEAD.>>HUGE PART OF OUR CO-OP IS
VOLUNTEERING AND DOING CLEAN-UPS AND GETTING OUT ON
TRAILS AND DOING CLEAN-UPS AND ALL OF THAT.
HUGE PART OF IT. GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU DID, ARIEL.
>>YES. BEACH CLEAN-UPS AND A LOT OF
STUFF IN THE COMMUNITY.>>MALIA: HERE’S A COMMENT
FROM SAM FROM VOLCANO. I HOMESCHOOL MY CHILDREN
BECAUSE OF LOW RATINGS FOR HAWAI’I’S SCHOOLS.
PERHAPS IT’S IMPORTANT TO BRING UP THE POINT THAT SOME
PEOPLE FEEL HOME SCHOOLING IS DRAWING VERY DEDICATED
ENERGETIC PARENTS SUCH AS YOURSELVES AWAY FROM THE
PUBLIC SCHOOL COMMUNITY WHEN THEY COULD BE INFUSING THE
COMMUNITY WITH A LOT OF THAT ENERGY.
WHAT WOULD YOU TO THAT ARGUMENT?.
I SAW THAT BEFORE. I’M NOT GOING TO SACRIFICE MY
KID’S EDUCATION FOR THE EVERYBODY ELSE.
EVERYBODY HAS TO DO WHAT’S RIGHT FOR THEIR KIDS.
THERE ARE DEDICATE PARENTS IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL.
>>MALIA: WITH EXCELLENT EXPERIENCE.
>>ABSOLUTELY ARE. SOMETIMES PEOPLE AROUND YOU
WON’T UNDERSTAND YOUR JOURNEY.
AND YOUR CHOICES. THAT’S OKAY.
THEY DON’T NEED TO. IT’S NOT FOR THEM.
>>MALIA: YOUR CHILD IS YOUNG. IF HE CAME TO YOU AT EIGHT AND
SAID, MOM, I WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO
DO?>>I WOULD DEFINITELY I MEAN,
WE FOLLOW HIS LEAD.>>MALIA: NO MATTER WHAT HIS
AGE, IF HE EXPRESSIONS HIS INTEREST, YOU WOULD FOLLOW
HIS LEAD.>>IF HE WAS DEDICATED TO
THAT. ABSOLUTELY.
THAT’S FINE. I TRUST HIM.
>>MALIA: VANESSA, HAVE YOUR CHILD EVER EXPRESSED THEIR
DESIRE TO MAKE A CHANGE?>>MY OLDER SON HAS EXPRESSED
A DESIRE TO INTO THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS MOST BECAUSE OF THE
FRIENDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALL WENT THERE.
HE WANT TO RIDE THE BUS. WE DID.
I FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH IT. I LOOK INTO IT WITH HIM AND WE
WEIGHED THE PROS AND CONS. I DISCUSSED IT OPENLY WITH
HIM. LOOK, THIS IS HOW YOUR
SITUATION IS GOING TO BE IF YOU GO THERE.
AND THIS IS HOW IT IS IF YOU’RE HOMESCHOOLING.
IT’S ALWAYS UP YOU WITH THE HOMESCHOOLING.
>>MALIA: IN THE END,.>>ALWAYS COME TO AGREEMENT.
>>MALIA: YOU ANTICIPATE YOURSELF GOING THROUGH HIGH
SCHOOL. AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DO.
>>MY SON IS HEADING INTO THE 8TH GRADE.
PLANNING STAGES FOR HIGH SCHOOL.
HE WANTS TO BE PREPARED. LOOKING AT THE UNIVERSITY
THAT HE MIGHT WANT TO GO TO. JUST KIND OF LAY IT OUT
AND SEE. BUT IF THE TIME COMES, TAKE IT
YEAR BY YEAR. IF THE TIME COMES WHERE HE
WOULD BE BETTER IN THE SCHOOL, THEN WE WILL CONSIDER IT.
IT’S NOT SOMETHING THAT’S OFF THE TABLE COMPLETELY.
>>MALIA: DID YOUR CHILDREN EVER EXPRESS A DESIRE.
>>WE DID THINK P IT WITH OUR OLDER DAUGHTER.
SHE KIND OF WENT BACK AND FORTH PROS AND CONS IN HER
MIND. ULTIMATELY, WITH DECIDED TO
CONTINUE HOMESCHOOLING.>>MALIA: HOW DO I KNOW WHAT
TEACH THE CHILD WHILE HOMESCHOOLING? THIS WOULD
GOING TO GO THE RESOURCES, CURRICULUM.
YOU’VE DONE A BLEND OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS.
YOU HAVEN’T SIGNED UP FOR ONE PROGRAM.
>>NO. WE DO A BLEND OF HOMESCHOOLING
CURRICULUM. WE HAVE USED ONLINE COURSES
FOR TEACHER-LED FOR WRITING. USED A CURRICULUM ON THE WEB
PAGE. AMAZING CURRICULUM FOR
HISTORY, LANGUAGE ARTS AND SCIENCES.
USE A BLEND OF MATERIALS FOR MATH.
NO ONE PROGRAM IS GOING TO TEACH EVERY PROGRAM THAT THEY
NEED WE USE ECLECTIC BLEND.>>MALIA: WHAT DO YOU THINK
HOMESCHOOLING GAVE YOU THAT HAD YOU NOT DONE IT, YOU
WOULDN’T HAVE.>>THE LEARNING.
>>I WANT TO LEARN THIS, SO MY MOM WAS LIKE, OKAY.
SHE SHE MADE A UNIT STUDY AND WE WOULD LEARN ABOUT WHAT I
WANTED TO LEARN ABOUT.>>MALIA: WHAT ARE YOUR
PASSIONS FROM THAT? WHAT ARE THE THINGS YOU ENDED UP BEING
DRAWN TO.>>ANIMALS.
I LOVED GOING OUTSIDE AND DOING STUFF, GOING ON HIKES.
>>MALIA: IF YOU COULD GIVE ONE BIT OF ADVICE TO A FAMILY OR
CHILD STARTING OUT, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ADVICE TO THEM?.
DON’T BE SCARED. IT’S SO MUCH FUN.
>>MALIA: HAPPY NOTE. DON’T BE SCARED.
IT’S NOT A PERMANENT CHOICE. IF YOU DECIDE TO NEED TO TRY
HOMESCHOOLING FOR ANY REASON, GIVE IT A SHOT.
TAKE IT YEAR BY YEAR. AND JUST SEE IF IT WORKS FOR
YOU. IT’S ALWAYS AN ADJUSTMENT
PERIOD, WHETHER YOU GO INTO THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS OR
HOMESCHOOLING. GIVE IT A CHANCE.
SEE IF WORKS. DON’T BE AFRAID YOU HAVE
EVERYTHING TO GAIN AND NOTHING TO LOSE.
>>MALIA: LACY, I AGREE.>>ALL THE COMMENTS ARE SPOT
ON.>>MALIA: DO YOU GET GOOD
ADVICE FROM PARENTS OF OLDER CHILDREN ABOUT THE PATH
YOU’RE EMBARKING ON?>>ABSOLUTELY.
ONE OF MY CLOSEST FRIENDS IS LIVES IN EDMONTON CANADA.
HOME EDUCATED ALL OF HER CHILDREN AND THEY ARE
REMARKABLE INDIVIDUALS AND I DEFINITELY, SHE’S MY MENTOR.
>>MALIA: WAS THAT AN INSPIRATION FOR YOU?
>>OH, YES. INITIALLY MET HER THROUGH A
BLOG. FOLLOWED HER BLOG FOR YEARS
WHILE SHE WAS RAISING HER KIDS.
FINALLY GOT TO MEET HER. JUST BEEN REALLY REALLY
BLESSED EVER SINCE. SHE’S AMAZING.
>>MALIA: BETH?>>I AM ALSO IN AGREEMENT WITH
EVERYTHING. EVERYONE IS SAYING.
I WOULD SAY CONNECT WITH THE RESOURCES IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
REACH OUT TO OTHER HOMESCHOOL PARENTS AND RESOURCES IN YOUR
COMMUNITY. DON’T TRY TO DO IT ALONE.
THERE’S A TENDENCY FOR EVERYONE TO FOCUS IN ON
WHAT’S ON THE WEB. LEARN FROM OTHER PARENTS.
>>PROBABLY CHANGED FROM WHEN FIRST STARTED, ONLINE
RESOURCES.>>IT’S WONDERFUL THAT WE HAVE
SO MANY RESOURCES BUT I WOULD SAY, IT’S A LOSS TO NOT
CONNECT WITH OTHERS. OR DOING IT AS WELL.
>>MALIA: GOOD ADVICE. THANK ALL.
VERY INFORMATIVE HOUR. REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
MAHALO FOR YOU BEING WITH US TONIGHT.
NEXT WEEK ON INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII, WE’LL TAKE THE ROAD TO
MEDICAL MARIJUANA. IN 2000, HAWAI’I BECAME ONE.
FIRST STATES IN THE NATION TO LEGALIZE MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
FOR PATIENTS THOUGH, THE ROAD TO OBTAIN IT HAS BEEN A BUMPY
ONE. PATIENTS HAVE HAD TO GROW
THEIR OWN OR RELY ON A CARETAKER TO GROW IT.
COME JULY, NEW DISPENSARY SYSTEM WILL ALLOW LICENSED
BUSINESSES TO GROW AND DISTRIBUTE MEDICAL CANNABIS.
NEXT TIME ON INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII.
I’M MALIA MATTOCH. A HUI HO.

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