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INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI‘I: Quality of Life on Lāna‘i | Program


ELECTIONS ARE NOT JUST ABOUT
POLITICAL CANDIDATES. ELECTIONS SHOULD FOCUS ON THE
PEOPLE, THEIR LEVEL OF SATISFACTION WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF
ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE ROLE GOVERNMENT PLAYS IN
THEIR LIVES. INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI’I BRINGS
YOU AN IMPORTANT SERIES FOCUSED EACH WEEK ON A
CONVERSATION LED BY RESIDENTS FROM ONE OF THE ISLAND
COMMUNITIES IN OUR STATE. WHAT QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES
MATTER THE MOST TO THEM IN THIS UPCOMING ELECTION?
RESIDENTS FROM LĀNA’I ARE READY LET US KNOW.
TONIGHT’S LIVE BROADCAST AND LIVESTREAM OF INSIGHTS ON PBS
HAWAI’I START NOW. [INTRO MUSIC]>>LARA: ALOHA AND WELCOME TO
INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII. I’M LARA YAMADA.
WE’VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS OF KAUA’I, HAWAI’I ISLAND,
O’AHU, MOLOKA’I, AND LAST WEEK, MAUI, ABOUT THE QUALITY
OF LIFE ON THEIR ISLANDS AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THEY
FACE. FAMILY WAS OFTEN A DECIDING
FACTOR FOR MANY PEOPLE IN CHOOSING WHERE TO LIVE,
SIMILARLY SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THEY FACE HAVE
ALSO BEEN THE SAME – JOBS THAT PAY A LIVING WAGE, HOUSING,
COST OF LIVING, OUT-OF-CONTROL TOURISM. YET
EACH ISLAND HAS ITS OWN INDIVIDUAL CHALLENGES, AND
TONIGHT WE WILL HEAR FROM RESIDENTS WHO ARE LIKELY TO
BRING A VERY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THE
CHALLENGES THEY FACE LIVING ON THEIR ISLAND.
WE WRAP UP OUR QUALITY OF LIFE SERIES WITH LANA’I, THE
SIXTH-LARGEST OF THE HAWAIIAN ISLANDS WITH A POPULATION OF
A LITTLE MORE THAN 3,000. LANA’I IS PART OF MAUI COUNTY,
AND IS 98 PERCENT PRIVATELY OWNED.
JAMES DOLE, WHO TURNED LANA’I INTO THE LARGEST PINEAPPLE
PLANTATION IN THE WORLD, FIRST PURCHASED THE ISLAND IN
1922. SINCE THE LAST PINEAPPLE HARVEST IN 1992,
RESORT DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN THE PRIMARY ECONOMIC DRIVER,
AND LARRY ELLISON, WHO PURCHASED THE ISLAND IN 2012,
HAS CONTINUED ON THIS PATH. TONIGHT WE’LL HEAR FROM A
STOREOWNER, A LOCAL PUBLISHER/EDITOR, A CULTURAL
RESOURCE MANAGER, AND A COLLEGE STUDENT.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT’S
SHOW. YOU CAN EMAIL, CALL OR.
TWEET YOUR QUESTIONS. AND YOU’LL FIND A LIVE STREAM
OF THIS PROGRAM AT PBSHAWAII.ORG AND THE PBS
HAWAII FACEBOOK PAGE. NOW TO OUR GUESTS.
JOAN DE LA CRUZ WAS BORN ON LANA’I AND CO-RUNS THE
INTERNATIONAL FOOD AND CLOTHING STORE THAT HER
HUSBAND’S FAMILY STARTED IN 1953. SHE AND HER HUSBAND
RAISED THEIR 4 CHILDREN ON LANA’I.
ALBERTA DE JETLEY IS PUBLISHER AND EDITOR OF LANAI
TODAY, A PRO-BUSINESS COMMUNITY PUBLICATION SHE
STARTED IN 2008. KALEO ROPA IS AN ASSISTANT
MANAGER IN THE INTERPRETIVE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT
DEPARTMENT OF PULAMA LANA’I, AN ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO
BUILDING A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE ON LANA’I.
CHELEIGH CLARABAL IS A COLLEGE STUDENT AT UH MAUI
COLLEGE, ATTENDING CLASSES THROUGH THE LANA’I EDUCATION
CENTER. HER FAMILY ROOTS ON LANA’I GO BACK SIX
GENERATIONS. MAHALO TO ALL OF YOU FOR
THANK YOU ALL OF YOU FOR BEING HERE.
SO WONDERFUL TO HEAR FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON THE
ISLAND. SIMILARITIES, DIFFERENCES,
AND JUST TALK STORY ABOUT WHAT’S BEEN HAPPENING IN
DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE. SO WANTED TO START WITH A
QUESTION FOR ALL OF YOU. WHOMEVER WANTS TO JUMP IN
FIRST, CAN. QUESTION ON WHY DO YOU CHOSE
TO LIVE ON LANAI? YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
>>WELL, IT’S HOME. WAY OF LIFE THAT I ENJOYED
WHILE I WAS GROWING UP. I FELL IN LOVE, MARRIED A
LOCAL BOY. WASN’T GOING GO ANYWHERE
ELSE. KIND OF MADE IT SET FOR ME.
IT WAS A GREAT PLACE TO RAISE MY KIDS.>>SAME AS JOAN.
WAY OF LIFE. MY CHILD, MY FAMILY, I LIKE IT
WHERE IT’S NICE AND QUIET. NOT TOO CROWDED LIKE OAHU.>>LITTLE BUSIER ON THIS
ISLAND.>>MY FAMILY MOVED TO LANAI
1951, WHEN MY DAD BECAME THE ISLAND’S GAME WARDEN.
GREW UP AT KOELE, STILL, HAD JUST CLOSED, RANCH HAD JUST
CLOSED. SO WE HAD HORSES, DOG, OPEN
SPACE. WE EXPLORED ALL OVER THE
MOUNTAINS. AND AFTER HIGH SCHOOL, I LEFT.
BUT LANAI KEPT CALLING ME HOME.
SO 1996, I DECIDED TO PACK UP AND MOVE BACK TO LANAI AND I’M
NEVER GOING TO LEAVE AGAIN.>>Lara: HOW ABOUT YOUR FAMILY
YOUR FAMILY HAS BEEN THERE SO LONG AND YOU’RE STILL DEEPLY
CONNECTED TO THE ISLAND.>>REALLY SIMPLE THERE AND
CULTURALLY, THERE’S A THE LOT OF MANA ON LANAI.
SO I PLAN TO RAISE MY KEIKI THERE.>>Lara: PART OF YOUR STUDIES
>>HAWAIIAN STUDIES>>Lara: WHY DID YOU WANT TO
CONTINUE FOR THAT TO BE A FOCUS FOR YOU?>>GROWING UP, I WAS ALWAYS
OUT THERE IN MY HAWAIIAN COMMUNITY, SO IT’S JUST
REALLY — IT STUCK WITH ME TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH OTHER
PEOPLE ABOUT IT.>>Lara: I’LL TELL YOU, THERE
IS DEFINITELY A STRONG HISTORY FOR LANAI BECAUSE OF
JUST LOOK AT THE NICKNAME. PINEAPPLE ISLE.
AS FAR AS WHERE LANAI IS RIGHT NOW.
FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHETHER YOU’RE ON THE ISLAND OR
SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH THE ISLAND SEE IT AS THIS RESORT
COMMUNITY. YOU HAVE THESE VERY LUXURIOUS
RESORTS THERE, VERY WEALTHY LANDOWNER THERE, AND
CELEBRITIES COMING IN TO THE ISLAND, SO YOU HAVE A LITTLE
BIT OF TOURISM BASE THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN
EVEN, SAY, AREAS LIKE WAIKIKI BECAUSE OF WHAT IS THERE ON
THE ISLAND AND HOW IT SORT OF DEVELOPED IN THAT WAY.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? HOW DO YOU VIEW THE TOURIST
POPULATION PARTICULARLY ON LANAI?>>I FOR ONE AM, OUR ISLAND IS
VERY DELICATE. IT’S VERY SMALL AND OUR
ECOSYSTEM IS VERY FRAGILE. SO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A
SMALL TOURISM — IT IS OUR MAIN ECONOMY, BUT IN VOLUME,
IT’S A VERY SMALL TURNOVER. SO I THINK IT’S FOR OUR
ISLAND, IT’S THE RIGHT FIT BECAUSE IF WE HAD, I THINK, A
MORE VOLUME US TRAFFIC, MORE HOTEL ROOMS OUR ISLAND
WOULDN’T LAST. IT’S TOO FRAGILE.
IT’S TOO SMALL AND DELICATE. SO I’M KIND OF HAPPY THAT WE
HAVE THE TYPE OF TOURISM ON OUR ISLAND THAT WE DO.>>Lara: IT HASN’T BEEN
FLUCTUATING ALL TOO MUCH. BASED ON WHAT IS THERE, AND
THE CAPACITY, WHETHER IT BE FOR RESIDENTS OR FOR
TOURISTS. HAS SOME KIND OF LIMITATIONS
IN DIFFERENT WAYS.>>I THINK A LOT OF THE
TOURISTS, THEY LIKE TO JUST STAY AT THE HOTEL.
I’M NOT SURE. BECAUSE WHEN I’M OUT THERE IN
THE FIELD, ALL I SEE IS THE FOUR SEASONS JEEPS GOING
AROUND. I CAN’T REALLY TELL THE IMPACT
THE GUESTS WHAT THEY’RE DOING ON LANAI.
IT’S HARD FOR ME TO JUDGE HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT THEY’RE
DOING.>>Lara: KIND OF A SEPARATION
WITHIN THESE AREAS TOO, RIGHT?
AS OPPOSED TO SOME OF THE OTHER ISLANDS WHERE EVEN LIKE
WHERE I GREW UP ON KAUAI, YOU DEFINITELY, ALL OF THESE
DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES ARE PRETTY CONNECTED AT THIS
POINT. AS FAR AS WHERE THE TOURISM
FLOW IS TRAVELING. WOULD YOU SAY THAT’S
DIFFERENT ON LANAI.>>IT’S DIFFERENT ON LANAI.
YOU KNOW, IN DECEMBER, I STARTED MANAGING A TAXI
BUSINESS. SO I’M SEEING A LOT OF THE DAY
VISITORS THAT ARE COMING TO THE ISLAND.
AND ALTHOUGH OUR HOTELS ARE ARE JUST BEAUTIFUL, AND WHEN
THE LODGE AT KOELE REOPENS, WILL BE ABSOLUTELY
MAGNIFICENT, WE STILL HAVE A WHOLE GROUP OF DAY VISITORS
AND VISITORS WHO HAVE VISITED US IN THE PAST WHO STILL WANT
TO COME BACK TO LANAI. THERE’S A SPECIAL QUALITY
ABOUT IT. PEACEFULNESS, ROMANCE OF
BEING THE LAST FULL PINEAPPLE PLANTATION TOWN.
OPEN SPACE THAT WE HAVE. WHICH HAVE A VERY UNIQUE
QUALITY OF LIFE THERE AND BEAUTY THERE
THAT PEOPLE JUST REALLY ENJOY.
IT DOESN’T MATTER. THEY ALL GET THE SAME VIBE.
WHETHER OR NOT THEY’RE SPENDING TWO OR THREE
THOUSAND DOLLARS A NIGHT TO STAY AT THE FOUR SEASONS AT
MANELE OR WHETHER OR NOT THEY’RE COMING IN AND ARE ON
A TIGHT BUDGET. WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY
PERSON WHO COMES TO LANAI GETS THIS FEELING OF BEING SPECIAL
TO US. THE FRIENDLINESS OF OUR
PEOPLE, THE FRIENDLINESS OF OUR RESIDENTS, EVERYBODY
COMMENTS ON IT. WHEN YOU’RE A DAY VISITOR,
PEOPLE SMILE AT YOU. TALK TO YOU.
SAY HELLO TO YOU. ASK YOU WHERE YOU’RE FROM.
WE’RE NOT OVERRUN WHERE YOU’RE JUST ANOTHER TOURIST.
WE DON’T WANT TO BOTHER WITH YOU.
WE HAVE A SPECIAL ALOHA THAT WE SHARE WITH EVERYBODY.
REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH MONEY THEY CAME WITH.
I THINK THAT’S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
>>THAT’S AN INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE IN THE SENSE THAT
YOU HAD A SERVICE COMMUNITY THERE.
VERY PROMINENT SERVICE COMMUNITY FOR SUCH A LONG TIME
THAT IT’S GENERATIONS NOW THAT HAVE BEEN PART OF EITHER
THE HOTEL ESTABLISHMENT OR RESORT AREA.
I WOULD THINK THAT NATURAL FLOW INTO THE COMMUNITY AS FAR
AS THAT MIND SET OF WELCOME BEING PEOPLE IN OR IS THAT A
LITTLE TOUGH SOMETIMES?>>I THINK THAT ACTUALLY IS A
LOT MORE TO DO WITH OUR HISTORY, EVEN BEYOND BEFORE
THE HOTEL. IT WAS A VERY TIGHT COMMUNITY
AS A PLANTATION COMMUNITY. AND IT WAS EVERYBODY, YOU’RE
PRACTICALLY FAMILY. SO WHEN PEOPLE COME INTO THE
ISLAND, IF YOU JUST BECOME PART OF THE FAMILY.
IF YOU COME TO THE ISLAND WITH THE INTENT OF LOVING IT, THE
ISLAND IS GOING TO LOVE YOU BACK AND THE PEOPLE THERE WILL
DO IT TOO. IT’S MORE OF A, MAKES IT, IT’S
A SMALL TOWN COMMUNITY VIBE THAT I THINK IS ALBERTA WAS
TALKING ABOUT THAT WE HAVE. YOUR THOUGHTS BEING A YOUNGER
PERSON, AS FAR AS WHAT IS THERE ON THE ISLAND, WHAT THE
TOURISTS BRING, HAVING MORE MENTIES MAYBE BECAUSE OF
THAT. DO YOU LIKE THAT OR, I DON’T
KNOW HOW OFTEN LOCALS GO AND MAYBE GO TO THE RESTAURANTS AT
THE HOTEL. I’M SURE THEY’RE PRETTY
EXPENSIVE. IS THERE NOT REALLY MUCH OF AN
OVERLAP THERE?>>WELL, WHEN TOURISTS COME
IN, I SEE THEM NORMALLY WHEN I TRAVEL.
ON THE PLANE OR IN A BOAT RIDE, IT’S NICE TO SEE THAT THEY’RE
SO LIKE, THEY ARE WANTING TO SEE LANAI FOR WHAT IT IS.
A LOT OF THEM WANT TO GO TO CULTURAL SITES LIKE KEAHI AT
KAWELO OR WHAT THEY CALL KAIOLIA SHIPWRECK, A LOT OF
FOUR SEASONS CARS WHO GO DOWN, SO IT’S NICE TO SEE THAT
THEY’RE OUT THERE SEEING LANAI.
>>Lara: THAT’S AN INTERESTING POINT.
BECAUSE THERE IS ISN’T A WAIKIKI OR NORTH SHORE,
HALEIWA KIND OF THING, DO YOU FEEL THAT BECAUSE IT’S
LIMITED, THAT ACTUALLY FILTERS THEM MORE TOWARDS
CULTURAL LEARNING? IS THAT ONE OF THE BENEFITS
POSSIBLY?>>I MUST MENTION THAT THE
LANAI ANIMAL, CAT CENTER, GETTING BUSY.
IT’S THE MOST VISITED TOURIST ATTRACTION.
DESIGNATION FOR TOURISTS ON THE WHOLE ISLAND.
PEOPLE COME TO LANAI SPECIFICALLY TO SEE THE
SANCTUARY. WHEN THEY COME, THEY COME IN
ON THE IS 10:00 FERRY FROM THE HARBOR, THEY GO UP TO THE
SANCTUARY AND THEY STAY THERE UNTIL THE VERY LAST MOMENT.
>>Lara: INTERESTING.>>STAY THERE.
>>Lara: FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN’T FAMILIAR WITH THE CAT
SANCTUARY, YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THE START OF THAT.
PART OF THAT WAS TO HELP PRESERVE SOME OF THE NATIVE
SPECIES THERE. TELL US FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN’T
FAMILIAR, WHY THE CAT SANCTUARY CAME ABOUT.
. THE CAT SANCTUARY CAME ABOUT
BECAUSE WE HAVE COLONIES OF ENDANGERED MIGRATORY SEA
BIRDS ON HAWAI’I THAT ARE GROUND BIRDS.
ORIGINALLY STARTED AS A SPAY/NEUTER PROGRAM IN THE
TOWN, TWO LADIES, KATHY CAROL, FOUNDER OF THE
SANCTUARY, AND LORETTA HELRONG LIVED NEXTDOOR TO
EACH OTHER. EVERY MORNING THEY WOULD GO
FOR WALKS AROUND THE POUND AND SEE ALL OF THESE HOMELESS
CATS. SO THEY DECIDED THAT THEY
WANTED TO TRY TO SEE IF THEY COULD START TO CONTROL IT.
SO THEY STARTED A VOLUNTEER SPAY/NEUTER RELEASE PROGRAM
THAT EVENTUALLY INVOLVED INTO A PROGRAM WHERE THEY WERE TOLD
THAT THERE WERE 20 CATS LIVING AT THE WASTEWATER SEWAGE
TREATMENT PLANT THAT HAD TO BE CAPTURED.
OTHERWISE, THEY WOULD BE EUTHANIZED.
THERE WAS A 8:00 ANY OF SEA BIRDS THERE.
THERE WAS A COLONY OF SEA BIRDS THERE.
WE HAD TO BUILD A SHELTER. HAD THE SHELTER FOR 2 YEARS.
NEAR THE LODGE AT KOELE. JOKINGLY CALLED IT FOUR
SEASONS. WONDERFUL TO US, ALLOW US TO
USE PART OF THEIR AREA. FOR THE SANCTUARY.
THEN WE NEGOTIATED THE LEASE WITH PREVIOUS LANDOWNER,
CATHERINE COOK, AND THE SANCTUARY IS WHAT IT IS TODAY
BECAUSE OF THE HELP WE RECEIVED FROM FOUR SEASONS
AND CATHERINE COOK. AND NOW, OF COURSE, FROM
PULAMA LANAI. WONDERFUL FACILITY.
>>Lara: ANY SUCCESS STORY, BRINGS UP WHAT YOU MENTIONED
ABOUT DELICATE BALANCE ON AN ISLAND LIKE THIS, AND YOU WERE
TALKING ABOUT IN THE GREEN ROOM ABOUT HOW NOW YOU HAVE A
GROWTH OF THE POPULATION OF THE SEA BIRDS THERE, BUT IT’S
SO CLOSE TO SOME OF THE TOURIST AREAS, IT’S LITTLE
BIT OF A CHALLENGE. EXPLAIN SORT OF SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT PEOPLE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF.
BECAUSE IT ALSO CLOSED.>>LIKE THE SEA BIRDS LIKE TO
BURROAW THEIR NESTS ALONG THE SHORELINE.
TRAILS GOING OUT. WE TRY TO TELL THE TOURISTS
THERE’S A NEST BEING GROUND IN THE AREA, — NESTING GROUND
IN THE AREA. BE CAREFUL.
TRY TO GO OFF THE TRAIL. STAY ON THE TRAIL.
YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING ON THE TRAIL FROM THE BEAUTIFUL
BEACHES, TO THE BAY, SWEETHEART ROCK.
AS LONG AS THEY STAY ON THE TRAIL, THE BIRDS WILL BE SAFE.
AND AT NIGHT, YOU CAN HEAR THEM CRYING WHEN THE BIRDS DO
FLY IN, FLYING OVER YOUR HEAD AT NIGHT.
>>Lara: YOU WERE SAYING IT’S VERY UNIQUE SOUND.
ISN’T IT?>>YEAH.
IT’S CALLED UWAKANE.>>Lara: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
>>I’M NOT SURE. THAT’S THE NAME OF THE BIRD.
>>Lara: SOUNDS LIKE HUMAN BABY.
ISN’T THAT RIGHT? THESE ARE SHEER WATERSES?
GOING BACK IN THE DELICATE BALANCE.
REALLY THAT IS GOOD FOR PEOPLE TO HEAR FOR ALL OF THE
ISLANDS. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT PEOPLE
GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO ALL OF THESE NATURAL BEAUTIES
THAT WE HAVE ON THE ISLANDS HERE.
COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. TALKING ABOUT TOURISM AND
THINGS THAT DEVELOP IN THE AREA.
DONALD FROM THE BIG ISLAND WANTED TO ASK, IS THERE A
PROBLEM TOUR HELICOPTER NOISE ON LANAI?
IS IT REGULATED THERE OR YOU DON’T SEE THAT SO MUCH THERE?
DEFINITELY SEE A LOT OF IT ON SOME. NEIGHBOR ISLANDS?
>>WHEN WILL WE’RE WORKING AT THE FISH POND, THEY’LL FLY
OVER. AND BUT MAYBE LIKE TWO OR
THREE AT A TIME. ER NOT LIKE WHETHER IT FIRST,
ELLISON FIRST BOUGHT THE ISLAND, THEY WERE LIKE PLANES
AND HELICOPTERS FLYING OVER THE PLACE.
>>Lara: THAT’S THE INTERESTING PART OF, I DON’T
WANT TO SAY REGULATING THE POPULATION, BUT THERE USED TO
BE MORE FLIGHTS GOING THERE. IS THAT RIGHT?
ONLY ONE AIRLINE NOW THAT GOES IN AND OUT?
>>HELICOPTER ISSUE, IT’S PRETTY MUCH KNOWN NOW THAT
LANAI CITY IS NO FLY ZONE. CANNOT BE, IT’S NOT OFFICIAL,
BUT HELICOPTERS ARE DISCOURAGED FROM FLYING OVER
THE TOWN. THAT HELPS A LOT.
FEW YEARS AGO, ELLISON WANTED TO DO A PRIVATE HELIPORT ATTAR
KOELE AND ANOTHER ONE AT MANELE.
THROUGH THE PRIVATE HEARING PROCESS, THE HELIPORT AT
KOELE WAS NOT ALLOWED. HELIPORT AT MANELE WAS
ALLOWED. BUT ALL OF THE TOUR OPERATORS
COMING INTO LANAI NOW ARE MINDFUL OF THE COMMUNITIES
FEELINGS AGAINST NOISE OVER THE TOWN ITSELF.
>>Lara: LET ME ASK YOU A BIG BROAD QUESTION.
SEEING THIS IS THE ONLY ISLAND REALLY THAT IS PRIMARILY
OWNED BY ONE INDIVIDUAL. UNIQUE SITUATION COMPARED TO
SOME OF THE OTHER ISLANDS. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS,
HAVING LIVED THERE FOR SO MANY YEARS, UNDER THAT TYPE OF A
STRUCTURE? I’M SURE THERE’S SOME
DEFINITELY MIXED FEELINGS AMONGST THE COMMUNITY.
>>TO ME, LIKE YOU SAY, IT’S BEEN THAT WAY ALL OUR LIVES.
IT’S MIXED EACH PERSON HAS MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT IT.
BUT OVERALL, I THINK IT’S NOT A BAD WAY OF LIFE.
IT KEEPS, WE’VE HAD, I FEEL, GOOD OWNERS FROM PLANTATION
DAYS TO MR. MURDOCH TO WHAT I’VE SEEN SO FAR OF
MR. ELLISON, WHERE BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY IS MINDFUL THE
ISLAND. IT’S OUR HOME.
WE TAKE CARE OF IT. WE TREAT IT RESPECTFULLY.
LANDOWNERS HAVEN’T BARRED US FROM AREAS.
THAT’S THE THING THAT I THINK REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US,
QUALITY OF LIFE. THAT IS WHY OUR QUALITY OF
LIFE IS THE WAY IT IS. WHAT WE ENJOY ABOUT LANAI IS
OUR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO GO TO ALL OF OR FAVORITE PLACE,
AND HAVE THEM STILL IN THE SAME CONDITION THEY WERE 40
YEARS AGO AND HAVE ACCESS TO THEM.
I THINK THAT’S WHAT MAKES LANAI A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE.
>>Lara: PULAMA LANAI, ENTITY THAT UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF
MR. ELLISON. AND THAT’S KIND OF HIS SORT OF
VISION, WHERE THE RESOURCE AND THE TIME IS GOING TO BE.
WHAT ARE THE AREAS OF FOCUS AND SOME OF THE AREAS THAT
HAVE CHANGED BECAUSE EITHER IT DIDN’T QUITE WORK OUT THE
WAY THAT YOU THOUGHT IT WOULD, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE
WEBSITE FOR PULAMA LANAI, YOU SEE FOCUS FOR DESALINATION OR
DIFFERENT TYPES OF ENERGY SOURCES FOR BUILDING THE
ECONOMY. AND SOME HAVE WORKED, SOME
HAVE NOT SO MUCH. TELL US WHAT’S HAPPENED IN
RECENT YEARS AND SOME OF THOSE EFFORTS.
WHAT HAS BEEN THE CHALLENGE?>>BEST THING ABOUT HAVING ONE
LANDOWNER AND ONE ENTITY CONTROLLING THE ISLAND IS YOU
ARE NOT WORKING WITH MULTIPLE DEVELOPERS.
YOU DON’T HAVE, GO DOWN THE STREET SAYING, I’M GOING TO
THIS AND TRYING TO DO THAT. THE PROCESS.
YOU’RE WORKING WITH JUST ONE COMPANY.
AND THE COMPANY IS VERY MINDFUL THAT OUR VALUE IS IN
KEEPING IT AS NATURAL AS POSSIBLE WITH AS MUCH OPEN
SPACE AS POSSIBLE. SO LANDOWNERS OVER THE PAST
30, 40, 50 YEARS, HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB IN
MAINTAINING CHARACTER AND OPEN SPACE.
>>Lara: WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS, BEING A YOUNGER
PERSON WHO IS CONSIDERING HOW LONG YOU’RE GOING TO STAY
HERE, OR ELSEWHERE, OR COME BACK?
YOU HAVE A LONG LIFE AHEAD OF YOU AND A LOT OF DECISIONS TO
MAKE ABOUT HOW YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD IN YOUR LIFE AND
A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE YOU THINKING THE SAME.
>>MY THOUGHTS ON PULAMA LANAI?
>>Lara: AS FAR AS WHAT IS ON THE ISLAND AND HOW YOU
ENVISION HOW YOU CAN BUILD A LIFE THERE OR MAYBE FOR OTHER
PEOPLE THAT YOUNG PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THEIR
THOUGHT? WHAT HAVE THEY EXPRESSED
ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON IN THEIR MINDS AND CHALLENGES WHETHER
OR NOT THEY WANT TO STAY, DO THEY FEEL LIKE IT’S A
STRUCTURE THAT THEY CAN LIVE WITH OR IF THEY WANT TO LIVE
ELSEWHERE?>>I FEEL LIKE MY GENERATION,
PEOPLE MY AGE, THEY THINK LANAI IS TOO SLOW AND A LOT OF
PEOPLE SAY THERE’S NOT MUCH TO DO.
BUT THERE’S SO MUCH ON LANAI TO DO AND YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE
AN OPEN MIND FOR IT AND HAVE THE HEART TO STAY THERE.
>>Lara: I THINK WE HAVE SOME VIDEO HERE.
NICE LITTLE TOWN. LET’S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE
DIFFICULTIES IN THE SENSE THAT, THIS REALLY IS THE CASE
FOR A A LOT OF THE ISLANDS. LANAI, AS FAR AS RESOURCES.
GETTING SUPPLIES IN, WHETHER YOU BE, WHETHER YOU’RE A
BUSINESS PERSON OR IF YOU’RE A SOMEBODY WHO NEEDS SUPPLIES
FOR THEIR SHOP. I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IT’S
LIMITED AND IT’S A CHALLENGE, I’M SURE.
I DON’T THINK THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY JUST BY TOO MANY
PEOPLE. TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
THAT’S GOT TO BE TOUGH, DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
>>IT IS.>>Lara: WHAT’S THAT LIKE?
AS FAR AS JUST FROM THE BUSINESS SENSE, BASICALLY ALL
OUR BUSINESSES ARE SMALL BUSINESS.
WE’RE ALL MOM AND POP BUSINESSES.
AND IT’S GETTING SUPPLIES, IT’S VERY EXPENSIVE.
IF YOU HAVE A SMALL STORE, ON OAHU, HERE, YOU’RE
DISTRIBUTER, IT’S GOING TO DRIVE UP TO YOUR DOOR AND GIVE
YOU YOUR GOODS. NO EXTRA COST TO YOU.
ANYTHING YOU BUY FOR A BUSINESS ON LANAI, YOU’RE
PAYING A PRETTY GOOD SIZE FREIGHT CHARGE, WHETHER YOU
HAVE TO FLY IT IN, YOUNG BROTHERS IS NOW BASICALLY
MINIMUM $50 CHARGE IF YOU’RE BRINGING A SMALL PALLET OR
MEDIUM SIZE PALLET. SO EVERYTHING YOU BRING IN, IT
COSTS THAT MUCH MORE. THEN THAT JUST GETS IT TO THE
HARBOR. NOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR OWN
VEHICLE AND USUALLY FORKLIFT FOR SOMETHING TO GET IT OFF
YOUR TRUCK. HAVE TO TRANSPORT IT FROM THE
HARBOR UP THAT 7-MILE, VERY CURVY, STEEP ROAD AND GET IT
TO YOUR BUSINESS. SO IT’S LOGISTICALLY-WISE,
VERY DIFFICULT TO DO BUSINESS ON LANAI.
>>Lara: NOT AS MANY FLIGHTS.>>NOT AS MANY.
LIKE MAYBE FIVE FLIGHTS.>>Lara: RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE
FIVE FLIGHTS A WEEK. I MEAN, FIVE FLIGHTS A DAY.
COMING UP, NEXT MONTH, THEY’RE GOING TO BE ADDING SIX
FLIGHTS, COUPLE DAYS A WEEK. THAT’S MAINLY FOR
CONSTRUCTION. BRINGING CONSTRUCTION
WORKERS IN. EARLY MORNING.
BRING CONSTRUCTION WORKERS IN.
COME SETTLEMENT, WE JUST BEEN TOLD THAT WE WILL BE HAVING
SIX FLIGHT AS A DAY EVERY DAY. THAT’S JUST YOUR COMMERCIAL
FLIGHTS FOR PEOPLE. WE HAVE A ONE GOOD AIR FREIGHT
COMPANY THAT COMES IN REGULARLY.
TWICE A WEEK. TWICE A DAY.
TWICE A DAY. FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
AND THEN WE HAVE OUR ONE YOUNG BROTHERS BARGE A WEEK.
SO FOR SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT YOU’RE WORKING WITH,
WHAT ARE THEIR THOUGHTS? DO THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE
ENOUGH FOR IT TO BE SUSTAINABLE OR IS IT
CONSTANTLY A CHALLENGE? .
UNDER THE CHALLENGES THAT I FIND FOR THEM IS THAT A LOT OF
RESIDENTS SHOP OFF ISLAND. OUR FEELING IS THAT FOR EVERY
DOLLAR THEY THEY SPENT ON MAUI, THAT’S A DOLLAR THAT
COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT ON LANAI THAT WILL SUPPORT ANOTHER
LANAI EMPLOYEE. IT SUPPORTS, WE NEED ALL OF
THOSE SALARIES TO REMAIN ON LANAI AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO
SUPPORT SMALL STORES LIKE JOAN AND TO SUPPORT PINE
ISLAND, TO SUPPORT ALL OF THE STORES.
AND WHEN PEOPLE GO OFF TO COSTCO AND SPENDING A
THOUSAND DOLLARS AT COSTCO, IT TAKES AWAY FROM THEIR
NEIGHBORS AND IT TAKES AWAY FROM OUR BUSINESSES.
I KNOW IT’S EXPENSIVE TO LIVE ON LANAI.
BUT IF YOU GO TO THE POST OFFICE, AND SEE THE AMAZON,
ACTUALLY BIGGEST RETAILER ON OUR ISLAND.
SO I WISH PEOPLE WOULD LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE AND THINK
ABOUT SPENDING MORE MONEY AT HOME RATHER THAN AWAY.
>>Lara: WHEN YOU COME TO OAHU, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO GET?
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO GET, TAKE A TRIP TO OAHU, ANOTHER ISLAND
OR MAUI MAYBE FOR THAT MATTER.>>I TAKE CLOTHES.
THAT ONE, I’LL GET HER. WE HAVE ONE VERY CUTE LITTLE
BOUTIQUE ON THE ISLAND. SHE DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB.
IT’S ONE AND EVERYBODY DOESN’T WANT TO WEAR THE SAME
SHIRT.>>Lara: TOWN, HOW MANY WOULD
YOU SAY RESTAURANTS OR SHOPS LANAI CITY THERE?
WHERE ARE YOU GUYS AT?>>FOUR GROCERY STORES.
FOUR RESTAURANTS MAYBE.>>ONE, TWO, THREE.
FOUR, FIVE CAFE. FIVE, SIX, FIVE.
NO A OI GRINDS.>>Lara: HOW ARE THEY DOING?
ARE THEY GETTING ENOUGH BUSINESS?
IS IT SUSTAINABLE?>>IT’S TOUGH FOR THEM.
IT’S ONE, COMPETITION IS TOUGH.
AND IT’S ONE OF THOSE — THEY HAVE — WE ALL ACTUALLY
BASICALLY, LIKE I SAID, WE’RE ALL MOM AND POP.
SO WE HAVE ONE BUSINESS ON THE ISLAND THAT ISN’T A MOM AND
POP. THAT’S THE HARDEST ONE FOR US,
ALL OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES TO COMPETE.
>>Lara: THIS IS, I WOULD THINK, ONE OF THE BIGGEST
CONUNDRUMS ON THE ISLAND. YOU HAVE ONE VERY LARGE
LANDOWNER. AND BASED ON WHAT YOU’RE
SAYING, PRETTY GOOD LANDOWNER.
WHO HAS BEEN PRETTY FAIR. AT THE SAME TIME, THERE’S
LIMITATIONS ON HOW QUICKLY THE ISLAND COULD GROW IF
PEOPLE WANTED TO GROW BUSINESSES MORE.
IF PEOPLE WANTED TO DO THINGS. YOU’RE PALAMA, LANAI VERY
INVOLVED IN TRYING TO LOOK TOWARDS SUSTAINABILITY FOR
THE ISLAND AND FOR SUSTAINABILITY TO HAPPEN,
CERTAIN AREAS, GROWTH NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU
TRY TO DO BRING TO THE TABLE? ER TRY TO INJECT IN THE
CONVERSATION. TO TRY AND KEEP MOVING IT IN
THAT DIRECTION OR FIND THAT BALANCE BETWEEN SOME LEVEL OF
GROWTH SO THAT SOMETHING LIKE SUSTAINABILITY COULD BE
ACHIEVED OR MOVED TOWARDS WITHOUT BREAKING THAT
BALANCE. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?
>>I KNOW PULAMA IS TRYING TO ENCOURAGE SMALL BUSINESSES.
THEY TRIED TO START A PIGGERY AND THEY HAVE A CHICKEN FARM.
>>Lara: REALLY?>>SLOWLY.
>>Lara: THAT’S FAIRLY NEW?>>YES.
S THAT ABOUT THE TWO I KNOW THAT ARE STARTING TO SLOWLY
BUILD UP.>>Lara: HOW IS THAT BEING MADE
POSSIBLE AND HOW MIGHT THAT CONTINUE TO GROW OR MIGHT
OTHER BUSINESSES TRY TO FOLLOW ALONG?
OR IS IT STILL PRETTY LIMITED WHAT IS SORT OF THE LAYOUT OF
HOW THAT’S WORKING RIGHT NOW?>>WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS,
WELL, AS SOON AS YOU GET ESTABLISHED, GOT TO TRY TO
FIND A CUSTOMER THAT WILL ACTUALLY GO OUT THERE AND NOT
JUST SELL ON THE ISLAND, BUT TRY TO BRANCH OUT TO OTHER
ISLANDS.>>Lara: OKAY.
>>I’M NOT SURE HOW LONG OR HOW THEY’RE TRYING TO GET OUT
THERE YET. RIGHT NOW, JUST SELLING ON THE
ISLAND. I’M NOT SURE IF THEY STARTED
BRANCHING OUT TO OAHU OR MAUI.>>Lara: THEY’RE TRYING?
>>YEAH.>>Lara: WHAT ELLISON DO YOU
THINK ARE THE POSSIBLE OPTIONS?
CONSIDERING WHAT LANAI IS TODAY, AND THE FACT FACT
YOU’RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE ONE PRIMARILY I LANDOWNER FOR
QUITE SOME TIME. HOW DO YOU SEE THEM MOVING
FORWARD? HOW DO YOU SEE HANDLING GROWTH
IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE ISLAND?
>>ONE OF THE BIGGEST FACTORS ON LIMITING GROWTH NOW IS THE
LACK OF HOUSING. WE HAVE HAD LAND PUT ASIDE.
MR. MURDOCH GAVE IT TO THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, WORKFORCE HOUSING BUILT.
IT’S BEEN SITTING UNDEVELOPED FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS.
WE HAVE HAD YING-YANG STUDIES ON HOUSING, GOING TO SURVEYS
AND DOING THIS AND DOING THAT. HERE WE ARE 20 YEARS LATER,
STILL DON’T HAVE ANY HOUSING. IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
>>Lara: WHAT IS THE HOLD-UP? PERMITTING?
>>COUNTY IS SAYING THAT WE DON’T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE WHO
QUALIFY. SO THEY DON’T WANT TO BUILD
THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BUILD HOUSING.
SO THE BIGGEST SLAP IN THE FACE, FEW MONTHS AGO, WHEN THE
COUNTY CAME IN AND SAID, AFTER ALL OF THE STUDIES THAT THEY
DID, THAT THEY’RE GOING TO GIVE US 20 HOUSE LOTS AND TWO
BEDROOM APARTMENTS AS POSSIBLE HOUSING.
BUT IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN FOR FIVE YEARS.
WE DON’T HAVE ENOUGH CONTRACTORS IN THIS STATE.
WE HAVE EMPLOYEES. WE RESIDENTS WHO WORK IN THE
HOTEL INDUSTRY. THEY DON’T HAVE TIME OR
KNOW-HOW OR THE FINANCIAL ABILITY TO GO OUT AND BUILD
THEIR OWN HOUSE. WE NEED TURNKEY HOUSES.
SO I DON’T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS THERE IS.
BUT PAST STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT WE NEED TO GROW OUR
COMMUNITY TO POPULATION OF 5,000 PEOPLE.
TO MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE. THEN IT WILL ALL WORK.
WE’RE JUST TOO SMALL. TO BE SELF-SUPPORTING.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN MASS OF PEOPLE.
SO IF YOU WOULD LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, WE COULD DEVELOP
VACATION RENTALS. INTERNET BUSINESS BASED
BUSINESSES WOULD BE AN OPTION.
PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE WORKING ON BUSINESSES THAT
DON’T REQUIRE THEM TO BE IN AN OFFICERS.
THEY CAN WORK ON — DON’T REQUIRE THEM TO BE IN AN
OFFICE. THEY CAN WORK ON LINE.
I’M BE WORKING WITH A GRAPHICS DESIGN IN SAN JOSE NEW MEXICO.
FOR A YEAR. BEAUTIFULLY.
WHEN HE GOES ON VACATION, BEEN IN ENGLAND, AUSTRALIA,
PANAMA, DOES IT ALL OVER THE PLACE AND WE CAN STILL
COMMUNICATE BY THE INTERNET. THAT’S THE KIND OF BUSINESSES
THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING TOWARDS.
BUT WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO LIVE?
>>Lara: WHAT ARE YOU’RE THOUGHTS ON THAT, SHELLEY?
KIND OF GOES TO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I GOT HERE.
I’M NOT SURE MICS CAN CROSS OVER HERE.
CAROL FROM KONA SAYING, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CHANGE THE QUALITY OF LIFE ON LANAI AND IF SO, HOW?
OBVIOUSLY, YOU’RE VERY CONNECTED TO THE CULTURE
THERE. BUT THERE IS THE REALITIES.
OF TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING AT SOME POINT.
TRYING TO FIND HOUSING IF YOU WANT TO LIVE THERE.
PERMANENTLY, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON YOUR GENERATION
MOVING FORWARD, WHAT YOU THINK WOULD MAKE IT MORE
TRACTIVE FOR MORE TRACTIVE FOR YOUNG
PEOPLE TO POSSIBLY STAY?>>WHAT WOULD MAKE LANAI MORE
ATTRACTIVE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE?>>POSSIBLY.
I DON’T KNOW — TOUGH SOMETIMES.
WHEN I WAS 18, ON KAUAI, OKAY, ABOUT.
YE. I’LL BE
BYE. BE BACK LATER.
TALK ABOUT OTHER QUESTIONS. FROM DELL OR HE IS.
TALKED HEALTH CARE AND OTHER TYPES OF FACILITIES THERE.
AND CARE THAT PEOPLE NEED. SHE SAYS, ON LANAI, WHAT ARE
THE HEALTH CARE FACILITIES AND WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS FOR
SENIORS? WE HAD POP UP SOME GRAPHICS
QUICK HERE. WE HAD SOMETHING, SOME
POPULATION NUMBERS I THINK THAT MAYBE WE COULD SHOW THAT
WHILE WE’RE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
LANAI FACTS, TALKING ABOUT THE POPULATION WHICH IS, I
THINK DOWN JUST A WEE BIT MAYBE.
AND THE MEDIAN AGE THERE, ABOUT 40.
LOOKS LIKE THE WORKFORCE IS GROWING UP.
YOU CAN SEE THE GRAPHICS BEHIND YOU THERE.
HOUSEHOLD INCOME. MAYBE DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAD ANOTHER ONE TOO. ON THE LANAI POPULATION AGE
OUTBREAK. AND SHOWING THAT MAJORITY
LEANING TOWARDS THE UPPER END OF THE AGE GROUP.
SO KNOWING THAT, AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE FACILITIES THAT ARE
AVAILABLE TO THE POPULATION, HEALTH CARE FACILITIES,
SENIOR CARE FACILITIES, WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHAT ARE THE
CHALLENGES?>>I THINK OUR KUPUNA NEEDS
MORE SUPPORT. THEY HAVE A KUPUNA HALE
KUPUNA, BUT I DON’T SEE NO NURSES IN THERE, I DON’T SEE
NO LIKE POHAI NANI, THEY HAVE ALL OF THIS SUPPORT OF PEOPLE
HELPING THESE SENIOR CITIZENS.
I DON’T SEE THAT IN HALE KUPUNA.
I KNOW THEY HAVE A SENIOR CENTER.
>>THAT’S OUR ONLY SENIOR LIVING FACILITY.
>>I THINK WE’RE IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE, I THINK, THAN WE
WERE TEN YEARS AGO. WE’VE COME FROM ONLY A SINGLE
HEALTH CARE PROVIDER ON THE ISLAND.
USED TO JUST HAVE STRAUB. WE NOW HAVE, OKAY, PUA WAI,
WHICH IS HAWAIIAN HEALTH CARE ORGANIZATION.
THAT DOES OUTREACH PROGRAMS. AND SUPPORT.
AND THEN WE NOW HAVE A LANAI COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER.
WHICH IS GROWING.>>KEOLO.
PART OF PUA WAI. PARENT ORGANIZATION ON
MOLOKAI. WE HAVE A BRAND NEW HOSPICE
FACILITY. VERY SMALL.
WE HAVE IT NOW.>>MORE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE.
HAVING THE PEOPLE THERE, LA INTO I COMMUNITY HEALTH
CENTER HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST, IT’S BEEN A WONDERFUL
FACILITY. IT SERVES UNINSURE AND
UNDERINSURED AND IT TAKES OTHER PEOPLE WITH AN
ASSURANCE ON THE SLIDING SCALE.
THEY HAVE ACTIVITIES, HEALTH WELLNESS ACTIVITIES, EVERY
SINGLE DAY OF THE WEEK. NOT JUST ONE CLASS, MULTIPLE
CLASSES. BOTH THEY AND KEOLOHO PROVIDE
TRAVELING NURSES ON THEIR STAFF WHO DO HOME HEALTH CARE
VISITS. SO ANYBODY ON LANAI, PEOPLE
ARE ABLE TO STAY IN THEIR OWN HOME AND BE SERVED BY
REGISTERED NURSES IN THEIR OWN HOME.
>>NO DOUBT A GROWING DEMAND.>>PEOPLE WHO LIVE AT HALE
KUPUNA HAVE TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT.
THEY HAVE TO BE PHYSICALLY ABLE TO CARE FOR THEMSELVES.
THERECY MANAGER ON SITE AT NIGHT.
THEY HAVE EMERGENCY CALL BUTTONS.
HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES.
I THINK BOTH THE HEALTH CENTER, LANAI, COMMUNITY
HEALTH CENTER, AND KEOLOHO ARE VERY AWARE OF WHO THE
ELDERLY ARE IN THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY
THERE FOR THEM.>>WHEN I THINK HE WAS TRYING
TO GET TOWARDS, WHAT WE NEED MORE OF, SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN
HALE KUPUNA AND A HOSPITAL. BASICALLY, HAVE 11 ROOM
HOSPITAL, BASICALLY, OLD FOLKS HOME FOR THOSE PATIENTS
THAT ARE IN DIRE MEDICAL CARE TO SURVIVE.
WE NEED SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THERE.
FOR –>>THAT COULD BE A NEW
INDUSTRY FOR OUR ISLAND. BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ABSOLUTE,
PERFECT WEATHER YEAR-ROUND. IT’S COOL.
IT’S COMFORTABLE. TOWN IS SMALL ENOUGH.
WE HAVE SIDEWALKS ALL OVER TOWN.
SO IF THEY’RE IN A WHEELCHAIR OR A MOTORIZED WHEELCHAIR,
THEY CAN GET AROUND. THEY CAN TRAVEL.
THEY CAN SIT, YOU KNOW, THEY’RE NOT CONFINED TO
LIVING IN A SINGLE ROOM. THEY CAN GO OUT TO THE PARK.
IT’S REALLY REALLY NICE.>>Lara: IT’S NICE TO SEE
THERE’S SOME INFRASTRUCTURE GOING IN.
WE’VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH LANAI, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE
OTHER ISLANDS, ONE OF THE BIGGER PROBLEMS NOW IS JUST
HAVING THE PEOPLE, EXPERTISE THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE
COMMUNITY. TO FILL THOSE FACILITIES AND
PROVIDE THAT SERVICE. ACTUALLY, SO YOUR FAMILY,
PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, KUPUNA, ALL THERE STILL?
>>YES. ON LANAI.
>>WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT SORT OF WHAT
NEEDS TO BUILD OR TO HAPPEN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY’RE OKAY,
AS THEY CONTINUE TO AGE AND REACH THEIR SUNSET YEARS?
WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR THEM?>>I WANT, HOW DO I SAY IT?
I WANT THOSE RESOURCES TO BE, LIKE HOW THEY’RE SAYING.
MEETING RESOURCE IN BETWEEN THE HOSPITAL AND HALE KUPUNA.
THAT RESOURCE, I THINK WE NEED MORE RESOURCES, SO THAT WAY,
IF THEY DO GET OLDER, WHEN THEY DO GET OLDER, WHEN THEY
DO GET OLDER, THEY HAVE THAT. INTO THIS IS THE TOUGH PART.
ROGER FROM LANAI. COMING FROM THE ISLAND.
HE SAYS, SMALL ISLAND. HE SAYS, HE LIKES IT AS IT IS.
NOT THINK THAT’S FOLKS ON LANAI WANT GROWTH OR
PROGRESS. ON THE OTHER ISLANDS, GROWTH
BRINGS PROBLEMS, CRIME, POLLUTION, TRAFFIC, ET
CETERA. I’M SURE ON A LOT OF ISLANDS.
HOW DO YOU STRIKE THAT BALANCE BETWEEN PROVIDING, HAVING THE
SERVICES THAT YOU NEED FOR THE POPULATION TO BE HEALTHY, AND
TO HAVE RESOURCES, WHILE NOT TIPPING THE BALANCE IN A WAY
THAT IT MIGHT CHANGE THE ISLAND.
>>IT’S UNREALISTIC TO EXPECT IT NOT CHANGE BECAUSE CHANGE
IS INEVITABLE. BUT WE CAN MAKE SURE IF WE ARE
PROACTIVE, AND ATTEND COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND STAND
UP WHEN WE NEED TO BE STAND UP TO BE COUNTED, THAT WE CAN
GUIDE THE CHANGES TAKING PLACE ON OUR ISLAND.
AND WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER FOR EVERYBODY, NOT JUST FOR A
SELECT FEW PEOPLE.>>Lara: HOW IS IT AS FAR AS
BRINGING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER?
THAT’S ACTUALLY ABOUT THIS ACTUALLY.
YOU HAVE VERY DISTINCT DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUPS ON
THE ISLAND BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY WITH THE PLANTATIONS.
HAVE YOU A LOT OF ETHNICITIES. AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN
FROM — EVERYTHING IS INTERTWINED.
WOULD YOU SAY THAT EVERYBODY WORKS WELL TOGETHER AND SOME
ISLANDS, LITTLE BIT MORE SEPARATED.
SOMETIMES BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT’S TOWNS HAVE DEVELOPED.
SOMETIMES THE WAY THAT DIFFERENT ETHNICITIES HAVE
COME AT DIFFERENT TIME, WHAT WAS YOUR PERSPECTIVE HOW
PEOPLE HAVE COME TOGETHER AND VOICE THEIR OPINION?
>>BASICALLY, ON LANAI, I FEEL THAT IF YOU’RE FROM LANAI,
YOU’RE FROM LANAI. IT DOESN’T MATTER IF YOU’RE
FILIPINO, OR JAPANESE OR HAOLE, HAWAIIAN, YOU BECOME
PART OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THE ETHNICITY DOESN’T MATTER.
I MEAN, MY CHILDREN ARE QUARTER JAPANESE, FILIPINO,
HALF HAOLE. BUT JUST FROM LANAI.
IT’S A COMMUNITY.>>Lara: ANYBODY ELLISON WANT
TO CHIRP IN ON THAT? GOOD MEDICALLING?
INTERESTING DYNAMIC ON THE ISLAND AS FAR AS HAVING
PRIMARY LANDOWNER AND HAVING SUCH A PROMINENT PRESENCE
WITH THE TWO HOTEL, TWO HOTELS THERE AND HAVING CITY IN THE
MIDDLE.>>THEY DO TRY TO COME
TOGETHER. THEY HAVE THEIR DIFFERENCES.
WHAT IT DOES COME DOWN TO IT, TRY TO GET WORK THINGS OUT,
TRY TO GET THINGS GOING. I DON’T THINK, LANAI
RESIDENTS, THEY DON’T WANT TOO MUCH CONFLICT.
THEY WANT TO WORK THINGS OUT.>>Lara: QUESTION FROM AMY.
WINDWARD OAHU. DO THE PEOPLE ON LANAI HAVE
REGULAR AND OPEN ACCESS TO HIS PRIVATE OWNER OR
REPRESENTATIVES? I’M NOT SURE WHAT AMY IS
ASKING THERE.>>THE OWNER HIMSELF, NO.
TO HIS REPRESENTATIVES, WE HAVE ACCESS TO THEM.
WE CAN STOP THEM ON THE ROAD. I MEAN, WE SEE THEM IN THE
GROCERY STORE. WE SEE THEM AROUND.
YOU CAN TALK TO THEM. YOU CAN VOICE YOUR OPINION.
THEY MAY NOT LISTEN TO US, BUT THEY MAY.
AND THEY HAVE.>>THERE’S A DEPARTMENT
CALLED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
LIKE CALL OR EMAIL YOUR CONCERNS, AND THEY’LL TRY TO
GET BACK TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND TRY TO ENLIGHTEN
PEOPLE WHAT’S GOING ON.>>SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT,
COREY, DIRECTOR, IN CHARGE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.
SHE HOLDS MONTHLY COMMUNITY MEETING, MONTHLY NOW, FOR
ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COME TO IT, AND I DO, WE DO ARTICLE IN
THE NEWSPAPER. IT’S CALLED STRAIGHT FROM THE
SOURCE. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS
HAPPENING ON LANAI, COMMUNITY MEETING, AND YOU’LL HEAR IT
STRAIGHT FROM THE SOURCE. STRAIGHT FROM THEM.
WHAT’S GOING ON. THIS RUNS RIGHT INTO WHAT
YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT. JEANIE SAYS SHE WANTS TO KNOW
IF PEOPLE FROM LANAI FEEL THEY’RE HELPED ENOUGH BY
ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES. .
NO. POLITICS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?>>OAHU HERE, EVERY HEARING,
PROGRESS, HOUSING, SUSTAINABILITY, THAT KIND OF
STUFF.>>I THINK THEY TRY.
BUT THEY’RE NOT ALWAYS LISTENING.
IT’S VERY DIFFICULT.>>WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY
NEED?>>THEY NEED TO LISTEN.
>>Lara: WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU?
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS IMPORTANT THAT WOULD HELP?
>>I GUESS THE HARD PART ABOUT POLITICS IN REGARDS TO LANAI
IS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS EARLIER YEAR.
STEPCHILD OF STEPCHILD. WE ARE THE SMALL POPULATION ON
A SMALL ISLAND WHICH EVERYONE THINKS SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF
BY OUR LANDOWNER. WE ARE STILL PART OF THIS
COUNTY. STILL PART OF THE STATE.
AND SO I THINK OUR POLITICIAN TEND TO FORGET THAT.
>>Lara: YOUR THOUGHTS? SHOULD I MAKE YOU ANSWER THAT?
>>I MEAN, COULD GET MORE SUPPORT FROM OUR LEADERS,
COMMUNITY LEADERS. POLITICIAN.
BUT IT’S LIKE I’M NOT SURE WHY.
IS IT JUST THAT THE STATE NEEDS MORE OR LIKE OAHU OR
MAUI. THEN LANAI.
AND MOLOKAI. JUST LEAVE IT TO THE SIDE.
>>Lara: I THINK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO AREN’T AS FAMILIAR
WITH WHAT’S GOING ON ON THE ISLAND, PEOPLE’S
PERSPECTIVE, THEY SAY, MY GOSH, THERE’S ALL OF THIS
LANDOVER THERE. THIS FORMER PINEAPPLE LAND,
SITTING FALLOW. THEY COULD DO SOMETHING WITH
THAT. AND THEY COULD GROW THE
ISLAND.>>IT’S BIGGEST RESOURCE IS
OUR VASTNESS. AND OUR OPEN SPACE.
THAT IS A KEY FACTOR IN THE BEAUTY OF OUR ISLAND.
IF YOU LOOKED OUT SUNSET, SAW SUBDIVISION OF HOUSES IN THE
DISTRICT. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, IT’S JUST
SO AWE-INSPIRING. SO THAT’S WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.
WE DON’T WANT TO SEE NEWTOWN THERE AND ANOTHER TOWN THERE.
OR SOME GUY’S FANCY UP ON THE MOUNTAIN REFLECTING ITS
WINDOWS AT US. THAT’S WHAT WE WANT.
>>A LOT OF THAT GREEN OPEN SPACE FROM LIKE THE 1950S TO
’90’S, JUST COVERED WITH PLASTIC.
IT’S NEVER BEEN RECOVERED.>>INTERESTING.
SO PLASTIC STILL THERE. KIND OF HARD.
BECAUSE OF THE PINEAPPLE FIELDS?
PLASTIC WAS THERE.>>THIS IS COUPLE OF
QUESTIONS. FROM PROUD PINEAPPLE PICKER
WHAT THEY’RE SAYING. 1968, SPENT SUMMER PICKING
PINEAPPLES ON LANAI. HAS THE ISLAND KEPT ANY
REMINDERS OF ITS PINEAPPLE PLANTATION LEGACY?
>>PLAQUE PLASTIC.>>Lara: THAT’S A — BLACK
PLASTIC. THAT IS A LEGACY.
>>A LOT OF THE PLANTATION STILL AROUND.
CULTURE AROUND HERITAGE CENTER, STILL HAS A MACHINE
SITTING ON THE SIDE BECAUSE THEY DON’T HAVE ANYWHERE TO
PUT IT. A PICKING MACHINE.
HAVE OUR OLD FIRE ENGINE. WE HAVE A LOT OF MEMORABILIA
FROM THE AREA. CULTURAL CENTER HAS DONE A
REALLY GOOD JOB OF PRESERVING ANYTHING THEY CAN REALLY GET
THEIR HANDS ON.>>Lara: FOR THE FOCUS THAT YOU
HAVE AND THE CULTURE IN HAWAI’I ANA THERE AND THE
ISLAND, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SNARE WHAT IS IMPORTANT THAT
YOU LOVE TO TALK ABOUT, ABOUT LANAI AND WHAT HAS BEEN
PRESERVED THERE?>>I LOVE TALKING ABOUT THE
STORIES. MO’OLELO REALLY GETS TO ME ON
LANAI BECAUSE THERE’S SOME MO’OLELO ABOUT LANAI AND
THERE’S SOME OLELO ABOUT LANAI THAT REPRESENTS THE
PEOPLE. AND HOW STRONG OF A COMMUNITY
WE ARE. ONE STORY IS KEAHEAKAWELO.
, HOW HE DIDN’T WANT ANY, ANYTHINGING ABOUT TO HAPPEN
TO THE PEOPLE OF LANAI BECAUSE MOLOKAI WAS DOING BAD TO US.
SO HE STOOD UP FOR LANAI AND, YEAH.
>>Lara: THESE STORIES WOVE INTO THE HISTORY.
REALLY INTERESTING TO HEAR ABOUT IT.
TRICIA FROM HONOLULU SAYS, I THINK THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO
WANTS TO POP ON OVER THERE. RESIDENT AS A RESIDENT, WHAT
ACTIVITIES ARE THERE TO DO ON LANAI?
>>CAT SANCTUARY. FISHING.
A LOT DO WITH, HUNTING SEASON. HIKING.
BEAUTIFUL HIKES ON THE ISLAND.
WONDERFUL. CAMPING AT THE BEACH.
NONRESIDENTS CAN CAMP BY PERMIT.
ONE OF THE SAFEST MOST BEAUTIFUL BEACHES TO CAMP AT.
THAT WOULD BE A REALLY BIG THING FOR PEOPLE.
ESPECIALLY OUTDOOR PEOPLE.>>I IF YOU LIKE THE OUTDOORS
YOU’LL GET BY ON LANAI.>>Lara: WHERE ELLISON COULD
PEOPLE STAY? I DON’T THINK I COULD AFFORD
STAYING AT THOSE HOTELS. ARE THERE AIRB&BS?
>>11 PERMITTED. OTHER PEOPLE ARE APPLYING FOR
THEM.>>Lara: HOW DO PEOPLE FEEL
ABOUT THAT?>>WE NEED THEM.
IT’S ANOTHER ONE, MIXED THING TOO BECAUSE THEY’RE POPPING
UP AND THEN WE’RE ALSO, MORE OF THOSE THAT POP UP, A LOT
WE’RE LOSING, SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT ARE POPPING UP,
WE’RE LOSING HOUSES FOR OUR YOUNG FAMILIES.
SO P WE NEED THEM. DELICATE BALANCE.
WE NEED MORE OF EVERYTHING BUT WE DON’T WANT TOO MUCH OF
EVERYTHING.>>Lara: IT’S HARD.
>>MY NIECE AND MY NIECE AND NEPHEW, THEY HAVE BEEN
COMING, GOT MARRIED AT THE LODGE AT OKOLE AND EVERY
ANNIVERSARY, THEY HAVE COME BACK AND THEY HAVE GROWN,
TEENAGE DAUGHTERS NOW. BUT THEY HAVEN’T BEEN ABLE TO
COME BACK TO THE LODGE BECAUSE OF COURSE, IT’S CLOSED.
BUT THERE’S A VACATION RENTAL RIGHT NEXTDOOR TO ME.
SO THE LAST TIME THEY CAME OVER TO LANAI, THAT’S WHERE
THEY STAYED. AND IF IT WEREN’T FOR THAT
VACATION RENTAL, THEY WOULDN’T BE ABLE TO COME TO
LANAI.>>Lara: TALK MORE ABOUT THE
SORT OF THE GROWTH AS FAR AS HOW THINGS ARE GOING.
THIS CALLER SAYS, ARTICLE THAT ELLISON WANTS TO SET UP
AGRICULTURAL PARK TO GROW SPECIALTY FOOD.
SUCCESSFUL.>>IT’S HAPPENING.
IT’S ALREADY HAPPENING.>>Lara: THERE’S SOME AREA IN
OF AGRICULTURE THEY’RE TRYING TO WORK ON.
COMPANY’S NAME IS CALLED SENSEI.
BUILDING, THEY HAVE ALREADY BUILT SOME HYDROPONIC
GREENHOUSES. AND THEY STARTED HIRING
PEOPLE TO WORK THERE. THEIR GOAL IS TO GROW PRODUCE
TO SEND TO THE REST OF THE STATE.
>>Lara: INTERESTING.>>THAT IS IN THE WORKS.
>>Lara: YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PIGGERY POSSIBLY.
AS A POSSIBILITY. WHAT DO YOU SEE FLOATING
AROUND THERE TOO? SOME THINGS THAT MAYBE PEOPLE
ARE EITHER ABOUT TO TRY OR JUST STARTING TO BUILD OR
THINKING ABOUT THAT MIGHT BE SOME WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO —
>>HAVEN’T HEARD MUCH ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE TRYING TO START
BUSINESS LATELY. NO.
>>Lara: SO THIS PERSON SAID, I LIVED ON LANAI FOR 10 YEARS.
WANT TO COME BACK. WHEN WILL THE KOELE BE OPEN?
>>GOOD QUESTION. WE’RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO
ONE. IT’S GOING TO BE DECEMBER BUT
CAN’T SAY IT HERE.>>Lara: DO YOU THINK THERE
NEEDS TO BE, POP BACK OUT OF THAT.
I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT EDUCATION QUICKLY.
DON’T HAVE TOO MUCH TIME LEFT. YOU HAD TO GO AWAY AND KIND OF
COME BACK, OR DO SOME STUFF ON LINE.
DO YOU THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE AS FAR AS EDUCATIONAL
RESOURCES ON ISLAND?>>I THINK SO.
BECAUSE FOR ME, FOR MY FIELD OF STUDY, HAVE I TO TAKE SOME
COURSES ON A DIFFERENT ISLAND, THEN TAKE SOME
COURSES BACK HOME. SO RIGHT NOW, I’M DOING
WHATEVER COURSES ON LINE I CAN DO, AND EVENTUALLY, I HAVE TO
LEAVE JUST DO LIKE MY LAB WORK AND WHATEVER ELLISON TO
FINISH. SO JUST THE WHOLE COMING BACK
AND FORTH THING FOR EDUCATION IS KIND OF HARD.
>>Lara: WELL, LET ME, I KNOW WE’RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. I
WANT TO MAKE SURE I ASK YOU THIS LAST QUESTION.
PREPPED YOU GUYS EARLIER. SAME QUESTION WE’VE BEEN
ASKING EVERYBODY. ON A DIFFERENT PANELS HERE.
THIS HAS DO WITH FOR BIG ISLAND MAYOR BILLY KENOI.
POSED THIS QUESTION. FINDING INTERESTING TOPIC TO
PONDER ON. AS A RESIDENT OF HAWAI’I, DO
YOU BELIEVE AS A RESIDENT OF HAWAI’I, DO YOU BELIEVE WE ARE
A STATE OF ISLANDS OR AN ISLAND STATE?
WHO HAS THOUGHT ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT AND WANTS TO
ANSWER?>>WE ALL FEEL THAT OAHU IS THE
STATE AND WE’RE ALL ITS DEMANDING CHILDREN.
ALL THE MONEY COMES TO OAHU. COUNTIES AREN’T GETTING THEIR
FULL SHARE OF THE T.A.T. TAX. OUR SCHOOLS ARE SUFFERING
BECAUSE ALL THE MONEY COMES TO THE BIGGER SCHOOLS ON OAHU.
OUR SCHOOL IS BARELY ABLE TO SUPPORT ITSELF.
IT’S NOT ABLE TO SUPPORT ITSELF.
WE’RE NOT GETTING OUR FAIR SHARE OF MONEY.
AND IT’S NOT JUST US. IT’S HANA.
IT’S MOLOKAI. SO IT’S ALL OAHU.
EVERYTHING IS OAHU.>>Lara: SORRY.
YOUR THOUGHTS?>>TALKING EARLIER.
LIKE SHE MENTIONED EARLIER. LIKE THE STEP CHILD OF THE
STEP CHILD.>>Lara: A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL
APPRECIATE IT GREATLY. BEAUTIFUL ISLAND.
AND YOU MADE A GOOD POINT. I’M GLAD WE GOT TO SHOW THAT
VIDEO OF THE GREEN SCAPING AREAS ON THE ISLAND.
>>THAT IS OUR JEWEL. THAT IS OUR BEAUTY.
YOU THINK THAT THE WAY THAT THE ISLAND IS MOVING IN THIS
DIRECTIONS MOVING IS RIGHT DIRECTION?
LITTLE BIT OF TIME LEFT FOR SOMEBODY TO ANSWER THAT.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE WAY THAT IT’S MOVING?
>>I LOVE THE CHANGES. YOU KNOW, I’VE GONE AWAY AND
RETURNED. THE CHANGES ARE DIFFICULT FOR
SOME PEOPLE TO TAKE. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BIG
PICTURE, IT’S BEAUTIFUL. I LOVE TO SEE FAMILIES WALKING
TO SCHOOL TOGETHER. I LOVE TO SEE FAMILIES STAYING
IN DOLE PARK. I LOVE TO SEE PEOPLE DOWN AT
THE BEACH ENJOYING IT. IT’S SO BEAUTIFUL AND SO
BEAUTIFULLY MAINTAINED.>>Lara: I’M SO GLAD ALL OF YOU
WERE ABLE TO JOIN US TODAY TO GIVE US A LITTLE TASTE OF
LANAI. MAHALO TO ALL OF YOU FOR
JOINING US. WE THANK OUR GUESTS JOAN DE LA
CRUZ, KALEO ROPA, ALBERTA DE JETLEY, AND CHELEIGH
CLARABAL. NEXT WEEK ON INSIGHTS, BEGIN
ELECTION 2018 FORUM. TWO CANDIDATES IN THE
DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY FOR THE STATE’S HIGHEST OFFICER.
CHALLENGER U.S. REPRESENTATIVE COLLEEN
HANABUSA WILL BE HERE WITH THE INCUMBENT DAVID IGE.
NEXT WEEK I’M LARA YAMADA FOR INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII.
A HUI HO.

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