Hi Flat Earthers,
This is Zack. And this is Steve.
In the previous video we gave you an introduction on how the refraction in the atmosphere or
atmosplane was the solution to the various visual problems that were not working on Flat
Earth models.If you haven’t watched that video yet, click on this link to watch it now.
Today we are going to explain a little bit more by showing you the star trails from different
locations on the flat earth. Many people thought that the video we showed before was not enough
to prove that refraction is the reason why the sun rises and sets, and many others thought
that refraction would make the apparent sun appear higher up instead of down. So to make
this clear, let me tell you that what we did was add the atmosphere to the FE model in
Cinema4D, and Cinema4D made the apparent sun go down. Not us. So if there is anything wrong
with this, then it will be Cinema4D’s fault. If you disagree with the software please,
send them an email and see what they will tell you. Now picture the sun is above you and the last layer of the atmosphere or atmosplane is a
lot closer to you than the sun. The refraction will happen until that last layer of the atmosplane
which goes to the ground, right? So looking at the sun from the ground, through that atmosplane,
can make the apparent sun appear lower instead of higher.
And if you look at it this way, the apparent sun will appear higher, right? But this is
all incorrect, What you will see from the ground, is the apparent sun only. So whether
it appears here or there, it is always lower. and the real sun is always higher. Now the
question is, what makes the sun go down as it moves away from you? There are a few theories
about this, but they can all be wrong. But let us explain one theory, if the atmosplane
is only 5 miles up. and the apparent sun is right above it, then yes, perspective can
make the sun go down in less than 7000 miles away from the observer. And this will make
the flat earth model work, but you and I believe that the atmosplane or atmosphere is a lot
thicker than that, therefore perspective will help a little but not a lot.
So if the real sun moved to the west for about 4 thousand miles, how would the apparent sun
look like from the observer’s perspective… We can guess but we will not know until we
make a physical experiment that represents all of this. For example, we can do this in
a big swimming pool to see how a refracted bulb will look like from far way in order
to see both refraction and perspective in action.
If you guys can help, please contact us and let’s prove this scientifically. But for now
let’s just call it a theory, because we’re just trying to prove it in a 3D program. I
am pretty sure we’re correct but let’s just call it a theory.
Here is how the real sun and the apparent sun move in Cinema4D. It’s acting exactly
how we expected. The apparent sun appears to move faster than the real sun, therefore
it disappears in less than 7000 miles away from the observer. when the apparent sun is at 0 degrees, the
real sun is at 35 degrees and as the real sun rises at its normal speed, the apparent
sun follows at a higher speed. The more they rise the closer they get, and when they are
90 degrees, the refraction is 0. This is a diagram I made in AutoCAD with the
real elevation angles of the sun that we get from suncalc.org. This is the location and
date that I used, you can try that yourself. So when we draw the angles accurately, we
notice that the sun travels faster the more it moves away from the observer. As you can
see the distance between 5 and 6 pm is a lot longer than the distance between 4 and 5pm.
and the distance between 12 and 1 pm is very close to the speed of the sun on the Tropic
Of Cancer. On the globe model, you can say it’s the speed of the spinning earth in the
Tropic Of Cancer. But of course the apparent sun doesn’t travel
in a straight line like the real sun does, so the distance between each hour should not
be so exaggerated , we can draw it like this. But this is nothing but a diagram. And by
the way, If perspective is the reason why the sun sets
on the Flat Earth, then the more the sun moves away from us the slower it should
appear to us, right. Imagine yourself in the middle of a highway, the cars that pass by
you will be moving in their real speed, but as they move away from you, they look like
they are slowing down. But that doesn’t happen with the sun, right. In fact the sun appears
to travel faster the more it moves away from you. So perspective is definitely not the
only reason why the sun go down. Here is how the star field would look if we
removed the atmosplane. The place is Tenerife –Spain. The lens that I used here has a
122º field of view. As you can see, the stars never set because they are too high for perspective
to make them rise and set. Their altitude now is about 4000 miles. This number is fairly
accurate and matches the rise and set times shown in programs such as Stellarium.
Now I am going to play the same video but with the atmosplane added…As you can see,
the view has changed completely and the star trails looks exactly like the original picture.
Here it is. Taken in Tenerife- Spain March 15, 2015
Let’s play the two videos side by side so you can see the effect of the atmosplane.
We can do this on any location. They all work the same. And here is another test in France…. Look at it carefully and compare it with the original
picture. Tell me if we’re doing anything wrong. And here is how the sun rises and sets in
Salinas, California. We still need to adjust the height of everything
but the atmosplane already makes them rise and set correctly. The atmosplane was the
key to solving the puzzle. This is a quick view of the stars in AutoCAD
so you can understand how we draw them in Cinema4D. All the stars you see on the model
are 4000 miles up, and the angles of the stars are accurate and they match modern science,
we didn’t make them up. and that excel sheet on the left side of the screen shows all the
DATA that we used. You can find it in the description.
Here is a south view of the stars on the Flat Earth with the Atmosplane added Now this should be enough for some trolls
to see that wherever we are on the flat earth, the sun and the stars will rise and set. And
if they don’t look like real life, then please, try to understand that by adjusting the map
and the height of all the objects in the sky can fix the problem, we still don’t know for
sure the height of everything and we still don’t know for sure how the real map looks
like. The point is that the atmosphere or atmosplane makes everything in the sky rise
and set in Cinema4D. If you think that the atmosphere should make things go up instead
of down, then please talk to Cinema4D programmers. Here is something that we’re going to talk
about in the next video. When the atmosplane was added, the first thing
we noticed was that spheres looked oblong when viewed through the refraction. The only
way to overcome this was to make the spheres as flat as possible. For the moon it could
not be perfectly flat, or the phases would not work.
So the moon is a very flat sphere or almost flat but not 100%.
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