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Enduro Vs Trail Suspension Fork | What’s The Difference?

– (grunts) Welcome back, you beautiful people. I am your trail angel
or Traingel for short. Now there’s a little bit
of an argument going on out there on the trail, and
that is what is the difference between an enduro fork and a trail fork. Now, I’ve got trail
Blake and enduro Blake, and we’re gonna put
them through the paces just to make sure which
one’s which out there so we don’t get confused
and have this argument over and over again. Now to make sure they’re
up-to-date with the new forks, we’ve got suspension pioneers Rockshox with the Lyrik on the Enduro bike, and the Pike on the Trail bike. Now, let’s get started
with the first trek. (upbeat techno music) Hi, I’m Trail Blake, and
this is my Rockshox Pike, equipped on my Canyon Spectral CF. Yes, it’s a 150 mil of travel upfront it can climb and descend anything. You don’t need anything else. – Ah ah ah ah, it’s not what you need. Uh huh, hi, I’m Enduro Blake
and this is my Nukeproof Mega with 170 mil up front thanks
to this Rockshock Lyrik. You can put this thing
in front of anything and it’ll eat it up for breakfast dinner and lunch. Steep rock, gnarly, everything. This bike will smash it. – Oooh! 170 mil of travel.
What are you going to do when you get to the bottom and you have to climb that
thing all the way back to the top. – Oooh what are you going to do with all that small
travel when it gets rough and horrible and your bombing down. You’re gonna get some
cool arm sweat with that. – We’ll see. We’ll see. (rock guitar) (grunts) alright, before we get descending we’re gonna have to do some ascending. So, I’ve got this nice, techy climb where it gets to the top, it gets a little bit steep, but you’re gonna have to navigate yourself through
these rooty sections, up some steps on this loose terrain. Which ones up for the test first? – (sighs) Are you ready? – (sighs) I’m ready. I’m gonna ascend it. – Mmmmm. I. You can go first. Yeah. I’m not ready. (upbeat music) (grunts) He’s gonna struggle there. That’s for sure. That was techy. – Let’s go. (upbeat music) Oh, that’s good stuff. – What took you so long? And I’m not talking about
the travel of your fork. – Yo, that’s a super techy climb dude. What do you expect man? What do you expect? – Yeah. Well, I told you it’s not all about length
of travel on your forks that gets you everywhere. – We’ll see when we get to the
top when we start descending. – Yeah, we’ll see. – We will. (upbeat music) – Haaa now we’ve got to the top of the climb. Now it’s time to descend. And I’m going to chuck
them into the deep end. Some nice, tight, fiddly, rough terrain just like this one right next to us. And look at this. (jumps) (lands) Ahhh! Because, look how deep
these little ruts are. Now this going to test out
that front end of theirs to see which one is
going to cope the best. Good luck! – (exhales) Trail Blake did beat me on the climb, but to him with the climbing thing. I love tight, fiddly, rough, trails just like this one in front of me. But I think he’s going
to say the same thing. I think we might be a little bit equal on this thing. But we’ll find out. I’m ready Traingel. – (Traingel) On your marks. Get set. Go. – (grunts) (upbeat music) (tires rumbling) (exhales) – Alright. I smashed Enduro Blake on the climb. It’s inevitable. I’ve got less travel. My bike’s lighter. I will smash him up there. Now, techy descent. Tight one. And I know this one’s
got some crazy little lumps and bumps which I might be using quite a lot of my suspension, but it doesn’t matter. (claps) I’m gonna give
him a run for his money. I’m ready my Trail Angel. – (Trail Angel) Ready. Steady. Go – (grunts) (upbeat music) – Wow. I felt fast. It was rough, but I felt fast. That’s the main thing. It was cool. There was like some
steps into those bumps. It was, it was rough. I’m looking forward to
seeing what Trail Blake has to say about that one. (laughs) – Whoa. That was rough. That was rough. I liked it. I don’t think I was as
fast as Enduro Blake on that section. There were some real rough bits where the bike kind of just dropped and dived into these bombholes before it entered a turn. I survived though. What do you think? – Yeah, I did feel fast. Having a little bit
more suspension upfront did help me a little bit. Especially when I come
to those big, deep holes before those turns, which I thought you would struggle, but yeah. It was good. – Yeah. Plush. My front end was plush, but I felt like I needed
a little bit more travel. But then, I wasn’t gonna
go too fast, you know, into a section like that. I’m just gonna ride at my own pace. And I think I did pretty well. – Yeah, but I did smoke you. But you smoked me on the climb. I smoked you in the treky stuff. Let’s see what Trangel has to offer in the next challenge. (upbeat music) – (Traingel) Ahh Welcome back. This is the challenge of jumps. Right behind me, is a set of massive jumps and at the end of it, there’s a little gas to flat where we can test the suspension at. Now, we’re going to see which one is the best for big jumps. Short travel, or long travel. Let’s see what they have to say. Let’s get ready for this jump challenge. – Alright, we both love to jump. But which one’s better, short travel – Or long travel? I tend to love big jumps, but I’m not going to
rule out the little one. – Yeah. But for me, I love to nibble down a trail with some small jumps keeping the flow in, and occasionally chucking
in a big jump there just to add a little bit more flavor. But when it gets a bit rough and fast, and there’s all those big hits, I tend to get out of my comfort zone. – Yeah, I tend to work a little bit harder on a small trail. Because I’ve got a 170 mil upfront, I work a lot more. When it comes to nibbly trails, I even work even harder
to keep my flow up. But I thrive when the trail opens up and it’s a bit rough, with big jumps. I kind of eat up the trail bike. – Yeah. You hit the nail right on
the head there Enduro Blake. We both like to jump, but you like to hit some big stuff and go really fast, and me, it’s a little bit that way. But we’ve got some jumps here. Lets put them to the test. There’s a big jump down
there we can send to flat. – Alright. I’m ready. (upbeat music) – Wohohoo! (yells) Good luck Trail Blake! Man. I love flat-out, fast jumps. You know, having a lot of
travel in the front end and in the rear just fills me with confidence, you know. You can just gas stuff to flat. Put something in front of me, I’m going to ride over it. I’m like a bulldozer. Where as the short travel bike, trail bike, you’re going to have to
be a little bit careful. Pick your line. Good luck! (upbeat music) – Droppin in! Ahhhh! Nice! Wooo Weee! (exhales) Big jumps, right? I’m not gonna lie, this bike is confident. I am confident on the bike, but its just not, inspiringly confident when
you’ve got lots of travel. Like I’ve seen Enuro Blake
descend and stuff to flat, and not worry about landing sideways. For me, I didn’t want to do that. I think, I think that’s good enough. And that, to flat, I’m proud of that. Yeah. I’m proud of that. (upbeat music) – (Traingel) Ahh! Right. This one is all about flow. And I’m in a forest of flow. No we’re going to see which one is better on a fast bit of trail where flow is key. Ready? Drop in. (upbeat music) (bike rattling) – Man, you’ve got to love flow. Now, the trail bike is
a super light machine. It’s nimble. It can get through a trail real fast. You can pick your line. You can navigate this machine through it. I was having small travel. You can pick your line really well, and its easy to keep your flow. Now, I’m a bit, I want to watch Enduro Blake come through this little tight section here and see how much flow he
has and how fast he can go. (upbeat music) (bike rattling) – Oh, man! The kingdom of flow. Trail angel wasn’t wrong. There’s a lot of flow here, and when I’m riding a flow trail on a big bike like this, I feel like I’m working. I’m muscling in the bike a lot more, which makes me feel like
I go a little bit faster because I’m putting a lot more effort into a long travel fork in the front. Being a 170, it dives a lot in some of
these real tight turns, which is inevitable. It’s a big fork. Where as the trail bike, it looked like it was a
jack rabbit through here. (makes noises) Me, I’m like a tank coming through. Like a nice plush road
with all this travel. I think it was equal, but I think I have more of a workout at the end of the trail. – Ah man. What a day that was. Don’t you think? – Amazing. – (laughs) I had so much fun. A whole day of riding. Testing out each fork. Which one is the Enduro
fork, like mine and – Which one’s the trail fork. – Exactly. High Five dude! – (Trail Angel) Yes! High fives all around! Now hopefully this’ll give
you a little more insight on what an Enduro fork is all about and what a trail fork is all about. With a trail fork, it starts at 120 and goes
all the way up to 160. Now the lower the travel, they lighter the fork’s gonna be cause there’s less materials in that fork. And its a nimble bike. It’s a capable bike. You can spend all day on this bike, and go for some big adventures and not be lugging some
heavy weight champ all around just like the Enduro fork. Whereas the Enduro fork, it starts at 150, and goes all the way up to 180 which is a big, big travel fork. It’s a heavy hitting fork which is super cool. And its a super capable bike. Whereas its a little
bit heavy and cumbersome when you want to be
out on an all day trail like this one right here. Now, hopefully this have given
you a little bit of insight. Thanks to Rockshox for
giving us these forks. If you want to stick around and you haven’t subscribed to this channel and you really want to, then stick around. Click the globe to subscribe because you’re missing
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100 thoughts on “Enduro Vs Trail Suspension Fork | What’s The Difference?

  1. I'd love to see a video where you guys (hopefully including Blake) choose the worst possible lines on ascends and descends and see, who can do it the fastest.

  2. And a 10mm dif? I thought these bikes would be so damn close. This video would make more sense comparing a 150 vs 180 or 140 vs 170…

  3. GMBN, great presentation, good idea, but the main point here, that you compared is 29er with 150mm and a 27er with 170. So difference of wheelsize is effecting more than the 20mm travel. I have ridden 29ers with 150mm and 27ers with 170mm. 29er is faster on downs and ups. But 170mm with 27er feels nicer for bikeparks. Due to my bodysize (1.75m) I prefer 27ers. But can only recommend 29ers for whomever is not using theirs bikes in the bikepark.

  4. I have an enduro bike, but sometimes I feel it's a bit overkill. Also want a nice trail bike. And an XC. And downhill.
    What am I gonna do?! Haha, goodbye savings -_-

  5. 140 fork. Keeps up with the big guys on my local trails as they are smoother flowing trails. Not a lot of big hits. And 140 is more than enough to handle those big hits

  6. More attention should be paid to the fork build than travel when deciding trail or Enduro. 36 vs 34 is pretty noticable difference in stiffness and weight dollar for dollar. Also most riders aren't Blake and can get away with 140 travel on any trail.

  7. And what sort of bike is an All Mountain MTB with 140mm of travel? It feels more Trail for me. Am I right?

  8. I'm decided between a 150 and a 170 at the moment and I can't pick. There is a lot of climbing at my trails, but they are very chunky and not very flowy. I ride park about once a month though. My concern is that 170 won't be as playful as I'd like, even though it's lighter than the 150 (170 bike is carbon)

  9. I have bought what i consider a light enduro with 160mm front travel and 150mm rear. The bike itself weighs in at 15 kg.

    It is the trek remedy. It does the climbs good enough and the decents are so much nicer than on my old bike which is a specialized stumpjumper fsr comp from 2010

  10. Mislabeled video. 150 mm of fork travel is not a mere trail bike. 170 is pretty much getting to downhill status. My trek top fuel 8 has 100 mm. That’s a trail bike.

  11. Cool video! Only instead of “Enduro fork” or “trail fork” I’d say “enduro bike” or “trail bike”

  12. Hello Sir. just want to verify my thoughts. is it ok to use a tire sealant for my inner tube? My budget isn't enough yet to go for tubeless tires and rims.

  13. I ride my 130mm 5010 quicker down all the trails I was riding 5-10 years ago on my 200mm dh bike with ease 🤷🏼‍♂️, rider skill and strength go a long way to putting a bike down a trail

  14. Thank you! Great video on how fork/bike selection translates to the ride experience across different terrain, especially park riding high speed jumps one after the other. Match the bike to the task. Simple … and expensive because one may need multiple bikes.

  15. Canyon's sizing is different. What is your height and what size bike is that canyon. I dont like 29er, but canyon only makes 29 on medium size frame.

  16. Modern trail bikes can take care of 99% of terrain and riders. Enduro bikes are meant for big terrain AND very good skills. Any normal rider will struggle and feel like they're riding a big bus. And yet so many fashion victims think that 170 mm and 64° head angle is the way to go !

  17. Then there's just a DH fork sitting in the corner that can tank everything😂
    Except climbing tho good luck with that.

  18. Your videos are awesome, as a new rider, I find them to be very informative and im learning much. Looking into getting a diamondback line or sync'r, or building a descent carbon 18.5" hardtail for 27.5".

  19. Years ago before mountain bikes we used to ride down hill on no suspension but the bounce made it very hard to hold but with front suspension you can take out the bumps giving you much safer and more control, only need more speed for comps

  20. This is a shot in the dark but can someone please tell me what shoes/pedals Blake is using? I'm assuming its the Stamp pedals and Clan shoes? The way he effortlessly pulls the pedals up at 3:00 looks like some clipped in magic and I would definitely go flats if I had something that grippy.

  21. What would be a great comparison would be a 150mm Pike vs a 150mm Lyric?! Looking at a new fork and am trying to decide which way to go. Stiffness vs weight savings.

  22. When you have more tracks does it give the bike a rake rewards the rear or does it keep the same riding position and just bottom out your chain Ring easier

  23. i do enduro rides with my 120mm Scott Spark 710…Thats what i have and i send it all over the place lol…only crash when i do nonsense.

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